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You could argue that that was then, and now is now, and that there is no longer any need for what Virago does. But I'm not sure that, say, 'Tipping the Velvet' would have made it into the big bookshops if Virago hadn't been there to publish it. And they still publish challenging books with a feminist perspective. There are Marxist publishing houses, there are libertarian publishing houses, there are houses that publish for all kinds of niches (including publishing houses for geeks and publishing houses for sports), so it seems to be fair enough that there should be a publishing house with a feminist outlook. It's not as if they prevent male authors from being published! |
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So that's a 'yes' then.
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Quite frankly it it wouldn't matter if the were a dozen publishing houses publishing only women writers, or a dozen literary prizes only for women. The world is dominated by white men - the publishing world is no different. Pointing at a few examples of "special" treatment for women and characterizing that as sexist misses the point entirely.
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Virago has bias based on sex; it only publishes books by female authors. It does not contribute to oppression based on sex; male authors are in no way disadvantaged by not having access to Virago. It is possible that male authors of romance novels are subject to sexism; male authors of "literature" are not. |
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Added: I found it interesting that Virago republished Margaret Oliphant's 'Hester' (in a tatty version that was basically a photocopy of a public domain edition, with an added introduction). Oliphant would never have been published but for the generous munificence she received from men in the publishing industry (specifically Blackwells). Their support went far beyond the bounds of commercial interest. But for these men, Oliphant's voice would be unheard today. It's sad we're supposed to villify them these days, rather than offering them the thanks they deserve. Another addition (soz): As a purely personal opinion, I'm not in sympathy with a world view that divides humanity into 'white' people and 'black' people. I've never met a 'white' person, or a 'black' person; and I can't help thinking that such terms perpetuate division, rather than otherwise. ![]() Last edited by Sparrow; 09-12-2010 at 04:57 AM. |
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It is a thorny problem. Would the same people who accept that a women-only publisher is OK equally believe that a white-only publisher was also OK?
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I do not like to invoke symmetry on issues like this one. It might put everybody off track, artificially, and hide the real problems. You know very well that everything can be decomposed in its symmetrical and antisymmetrical component. Both are essential. |
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Would the same people who accept that a women-only publisher is OK equally believe that a Socialist-only publisher was also OK? Would the same people who accept that a women-only publisher is OK equally believe that a men-only publisher was also OK? Would the same people who accept that a women-only publisher is OK equally believe that an American-only publisher was also OK? Would the same people who accept that a women-only publisher is OK equally believe that a black-only publisher was also OK? Would the same people who accept that a women-only publisher is OK equally believe that a Libertarian-only publisher was also OK? Would the same people who accept that a women-only publisher is OK equally believe that a Scandinavian-only publisher was also OK? Would the same people who accept that a women-only publisher is OK equally believe that a Christian-only publisher was also OK? Drawing the race card is muddying the waters considerably, I feel. Last edited by Ea; 09-12-2010 at 08:44 AM. |
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I must respectfully disagree, Ea. I think personally that if one accepts the idea of "discriminatory" publishing houses, then one has to accept that even those whose form of discrimination one finds personally distasteful do have a right to exist. That's what freedom of expression is all about.
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I felt that by using that specific example you were drawing the race-card in the discussion. I think that it can easily side-track the discussion from any relevant points by using a politically and emotionally sensitive example. The original talking point was whether or not it was right for women to have a literary prize where only they could be considered eligible for nominations.
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No; I was simply using it as an example of a example of selective publishing that some people may find distasteful, and saying that if one accepts those selective practices that one does support, then one should also be prepared to tolerate those that one doesn't.
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