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Old 09-11-2010, 11:50 AM   #16
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Harry. collections are not folders. You cant create a folder on PC and just upload it to a device. I had like 150 docs on the device I had to group using collections. It was pretty uncomfortable and time consuming.
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:52 AM   #17
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Oh yes, I'm well aware of the difference between folders and tags and, like you, I'd prefer real folder support. However, collections are at least better than nothing at all. If you need folders then there are of course many reading devices that do support them.
But there are no devices with Pearl screens!!!! Amazon bought them all Sony realeased a 6 inch with Pearl. Dunno about others. But I need a big guy, 9.7 inch or bigger. And they are not out yet. Cant wait to see whats gonna happen in Ocober with PB, SONY and others releasing there toys
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:52 AM   #18
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Harry. collections are not folders. You cant create a folder on PC and just upload it to a device. I had like 150 docs on the device I had to group using collections. It was pretty uncomfortable and time consuming. May be you can argue its good to have tags instead of real folders but again I d prefer just having folders. I tried other device with folder support and it was very comfy and fast.
There is a MobileRead member who is taking beta testers for software to create and mange collections via a Windows computer. Read this thread.
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:53 AM   #19
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But yes, if you really don't like the location system and the not quite a folder collection organisation then the Kindle is probably not the best for you. I find the collection system a little annoying sometimes but i've gotten used to it along with the location numbers.
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But there are no devices with Pearl screens!!!! Amazon bought them all Sony realeased a 6 inch with Pearl. Dunno about others. But I need a big guy, 9.7 inch or bigger. And they are not out yet. Cant wait to see whats gonna happen in Ocober with PB, SONY and others releasing there toys
If you're within the 30 day DX purchase window, you may want to return it now until you see what happens with the other readers. You can always re-buy a DX if you don't see something better.
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:56 AM   #21
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Are you familiar with the different ways of managing collections on the Kindle? There are a number of different ways to do it. The "slow" way is to select a book, then "Add to Collection", and choose which collections you want to add it to. That's rather painful for a lot of books. A much faster way is to open the collection, select "Add/Remove Items", and then choose which books you want to add or remove. That's enormously faster.
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:16 PM   #22
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Perhaps you should just stick to real books. Sounds more like your thing.

As for locations - I've noticed that if I divide by ten it's usually not too far of the 'real' page number.
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I would like to be able to turn the locations bar off, to be fully immersed in an ebook I would prefer not to know how long there is to the the end...
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Old 09-11-2010, 03:33 PM   #24
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Perhaps you should just stick to real books. Sounds more like your thing. .
Even in jest, I don't think that's good advice I personally think there's an ebook device to suit everyone - it's just finding one that suits you.

I went through a few before deciding that a Kindle really suited me best. It's figuring out what works for you and perhaps in the OPs case, page numbers are a deal breaker.
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A few days ago, I came across a post that was complaining that the page numbers were worthless on his device, because they changed every time he adjusted the font size.

iBooks on the iPad uses page numbers, and they (the page numbers) are pretty worthless. They change not only with font size, but with page orientation.

I don’t see any difference between remembering I'm on page 427 as opposed to location 437.
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Old 09-11-2010, 04:14 PM   #26
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OP should get a Sony eReader

My Sony PRS 900 does use page numbers equivalent to the page numbers in the printed book. Font sizes do not alter the page numbers but do alter the size of that printed page from one screen to many screens.

Thus, the OP should buy that one instead of a Kindle WiFi LG 3.

For me locations are just fine. They are EXACTY like page numbers and with notes, highlights and bookmarks there is plenty of control

In the Sony PRS 900 too many highlights and / or notes and the ebook freezes. Unfreezing it loses all those items.

In the Kindle 3 one can go direct to any location and / or highlight, note or bookmark So far I have not discovered any limits to these locations however there may be a limit to highlights in particular books. I have hundreds of hightlights in my eBibles on the Kindle 3 and so far I have not reached any limit. Also, they do not end up freezing the device either.
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Old 09-11-2010, 04:50 PM   #27
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I was also confused by locations in the beginning, until I learned to look at it another way:

If I have a book with a certain paragraph I like on say page 58, that para will only be on the same page in another book in the same edition. When they bring out a new edition, my favourite para will, like as not, be on a different page. This has led to confusions. In one case when I was moderator on another forum I had to make frequent requests to members kindly to refer to which edition they were referring. Editions which were out of print never had the same page numbers as the newer editions, and this caused confusion galore.

You could use the word 'page' if you wanted to. Example:

In this copy of Tale of Two Cities, my location (page) is:

3548-56 / 6053.

Let's expand this to: 3548-3556 / 6053.

So you could think of the book as having 6053 little pages, and the page I'm on contains all the pages between 3,548-3,556.

You could if you want take a mean point and say you're on page 3,552 / 6053.

We could divide both sides by ten if we wanted, so if the book was 605 pages long, I'd be on page 355, or just over half way. 59% of the way through.

At least, that's the way I see it
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:46 PM   #28
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Again, I wish I could turn off locations so I DON'T know where I am in the book (physically so to speak).
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Again, I wish I could turn off locations so I DON'T know where I am in the book (physically so to speak).
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I was also confused by locations in the beginning, until I learned to look at it another way:

If I have a book with a certain paragraph I like on say page 58, that para will only be on the same page in another book in the same edition. When they bring out a new edition, my favourite para will, like as not, be on a different page. This has led to confusions. In one case when I was moderator on another forum I had to make frequent requests to members kindly to refer to which edition they were referring. Editions which were out of print never had the same page numbers as the newer editions, and this caused confusion galore.

You could use the word 'page' if you wanted to. Example:

In this copy of Tale of Two Cities, my location (page) is:

3548-56 / 6053.

Let's expand this to: 3548-3556 / 6053.

So you could think of the book as having 6053 little pages, and the page I'm on contains all the pages between 3,548-3,556.

You could if you want take a mean point and say you're on page 3,552 / 6053.

We could divide both sides by ten if we wanted, so if the book was 605 pages long, I'd be on page 355, or just over half way. 59% of the way through.

At least, that's the way I see it
Yeah, after I read your post I figured out how I can convert the 4727 locations in my book to the page number I need. It was not hard to figure out at the end. Still page numbers would be better for my use.
I think the next Kindle should be with folder support, Wacom touch screen and support more formats (c'mon, at least Epub). Other than that I like the device.
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