PRS 650 or Kindle 3 - Page 2

JSWolf · 09-02-2010, 08:31 PM

If you do not strip DRM or do not know how to strip DRM or even that you can strip DRM, the Kindle locks you into Amazon for eBooks with DRM. Sony does not lock you into Sony and if you have access to library eBooks in ePub, you can borrow what you want. You cannot do this with a Kindle.

jswinden, most of your arguments for the K3 are based on stripping DRM/converting. Do you have any significant arguments for the K3 that do not involve DRM stripping/converting? And is there any shop other then Amazon where you can get DRMed eBooks?

jj2me · 09-02-2010, 09:38 PM

A minor feature of the touchscreen Sonys, at least the 700 and 600 [EDIT: Just read the 350 manual and it has this feature too], is

stroke-and-hold fast forwards (or fast reverses) multiple pages. And when you release, you'll invariably find yourself on just the page where you intended. (Holding the Kindle's page forward button doesn't do anything more than the original press, i.e., one page forwarded.)

I call it a minor feature only in relation to the percentage of people who care about it. I'm in the minority that find the Sony's perfectly-behaving fast-forward highly desirable when reading material one tends to skip over or skim, like e-magazines and e-newspapers.

kakakanno · 09-03-2010, 02:02 AM

not to mention the size of a prs650, it's smaller and more comfortable to carry around
of cource, it looks more high-grade, too

SkyDream · 09-03-2010, 04:19 AM

Personally it would go for the 650.
No vendor lock in, DRM/ePub support (important for public libraries).
Looks better, Pearl screen too and touchscreen.
Just to name a few reasons.

kartu · 09-03-2010, 07:34 AM

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Plus I have no idea where you got the idea you need a stylus.

Probably he decided Sony was using Wacom screen. Which is not the case.

kakakanno · 09-03-2010, 09:10 AM

650 is classier and i would buy one if i had the money

sirmaru · 09-03-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

Kindles are NOT locked in to Amazon store. I read as many Sony ePubs on my Kindles as I do mobi books because deDRMing and conversion is easy.

You can convert and sideload to either Sony or Kindle.

How does one convert protected Sony DRM ePub eBooks to protected Amazon DRM AZW eBooks?

I used to use a Sony PRS-900 and now use a Kindle LG WiFi 3. It would be nice to be able to retrieve those old Sony eBooks on the Kindle.

mrscoach · 09-03-2010, 10:04 AM

You cannot convert Sony DRM ePub books to DRM AZW eBooks, you would have to strip the DRM first, then convert to mobi, which would not contain DRM, but could be read on your Kindle.

jswinden · 09-03-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sirmaru

How does one convert protected Sony DRM ePub eBooks to protected Amazon DRM AZW eBooks?

I used to use a Sony PRS-900 and now use a Kindle LG WiFi 3. It would be nice to be able to retrieve those old Sony eBooks on the Kindle.

Read this, but use it for good and not evil.

It tells how to strip DRM and then you use a program like calibre to convert to mobi.

jswinden · 09-03-2010, 11:49 AM

First off, I purchased a Sony PRS-350 yesterday. So how many in this lynch mob have actually purchased one of the newest Sonys? I thought so, so back off!

Secondly I've owned the 505, 300, 600, and 900, the latter two have touchscreens. Granted my hands are big and my fingers are fat and my circulation is probably not the best, but my experience with the 600 and 900 was that using my fingers on their touchscreens was NOT something that worked consistently. I used the 900 extensively for 6 months and rarely got it to react to my finger touch. If I turned my finger over and used my fingernail, then the screen would respond. And even using a stylus, the screens often were slow to respond and the selected text would often change after I lifted the stylus from the screen.

As I've stated plenty of times, I am not a brand snob. That means I'm loyal to no company. I choose my readers based on what I hope with be the characteristics that make it work best for me. And I've made a few wrong choices over the years. Some of you are just as bad as the Applephiles in that you cannot listen to ANY criticism of Sony products. Well I criticize any product that has flaws no matter who manufactured it. If you don't like that, too bad.

Oh, and if you want to call me a troll, do so to my face. I live in southern Arlington, Texas. We will see just how big your mouth is then Mr. Ten Posts.

Latinandgreek · 09-03-2010, 11:59 AM

Both look like they are great products, but I personally will upgrade my PRS-505 to either the 650 or the 950, as I have found that I would like to have the touchscreen annotation, I like the way Sony readers render PDFs, and I often upload files in rtf to read on my reader, and would really miss that in a Kindle.

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kakakanno · 09-03-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

First off, I purchased a Sony PRS-350 yesterday. So how many in this lynch mob have actually purchased one of the newest Sonys? I thought so, so back off!

how could you buy a prs-350 yesterday while it will be introduced today at ifa in berlin?

shanghaichica · 09-03-2010, 03:47 PM

Well i've just bought the K3 and if I had the choice I'd still buy the K3 again. However out of the new sony's I'd say the 350 looks the best, maybe because I already have a 300.

Prince Hal · 09-03-2010, 04:23 PM

So, I cancelled my order for the Kindle 3 and went to order the PRS650. Got through to the confirm page on the SonyStyle website and got a message that there was a technical error on the site and I should try again later. Took this as a sign from the eReader angel that it should be a K3. So re-ordered the Kindle, with a ship date of the 20th September. Considering re-cancelling and getting a PRS650. I need counselling and medication. I am glad I am not like this in my job.

09-02-2010, 09:38 PM	#17
jj2me Guru Posts: 820 Karma: 8820388 Join Date: Dec 2008 Device: Sony PRS-505, -350; Kindle 3 3G, DX, PW 2; various tablets	A minor feature of the touchscreen Sonys, at least the 700 and 600 [EDIT: Just read the 350 manual and it has this feature too], is stroke-and-hold fast forwards (or fast reverses) multiple pages. And when you release, you'll invariably find yourself on just the page where you intended. (Holding the Kindle's page forward button doesn't do anything more than the original press, i.e., one page forwarded.) I call it a minor feature only in relation to the percentage of people who care about it. I'm in the minority that find the Sony's perfectly-behaving fast-forward highly desirable when reading material one tends to skip over or skim, like e-magazines and e-newspapers. Last edited by jj2me; 09-02-2010 at 10:26 PM.

09-03-2010, 11:49 AM	#25
jswinden Nameless Being	First off, I purchased a Sony PRS-350 yesterday. So how many in this lynch mob have actually purchased one of the newest Sonys? I thought so, so back off! Secondly I've owned the 505, 300, 600, and 900, the latter two have touchscreens. Granted my hands are big and my fingers are fat and my circulation is probably not the best, but my experience with the 600 and 900 was that using my fingers on their touchscreens was NOT something that worked consistently. I used the 900 extensively for 6 months and rarely got it to react to my finger touch. If I turned my finger over and used my fingernail, then the screen would respond. And even using a stylus, the screens often were slow to respond and the selected text would often change after I lifted the stylus from the screen. As I've stated plenty of times, I am not a brand snob. That means I'm loyal to no company. I choose my readers based on what I hope with be the characteristics that make it work best for me. And I've made a few wrong choices over the years. Some of you are just as bad as the Applephiles in that you cannot listen to ANY criticism of Sony products. Well I criticize any product that has flaws no matter who manufactured it. If you don't like that, too bad. Oh, and if you want to call me a troll, do so to my face. I live in southern Arlington, Texas. We will see just how big your mouth is then Mr. Ten Posts. Last edited by jswinden; 09-03-2010 at 11:53 AM.

09-03-2010, 04:23 PM	#30
Prince Hal Zealot Posts: 149 Karma: 1856 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Device: Galaxy Player 4.2; Nexus 3 (wifi only); Nook HD+ (possibly)	Decision made - I think, perhaps So, I cancelled my order for the Kindle 3 and went to order the PRS650. Got through to the confirm page on the SonyStyle website and got a message that there was a technical error on the site and I should try again later. Took this as a sign from the eReader angel that it should be a K3. So re-ordered the Kindle, with a ship date of the 20th September. Considering re-cancelling and getting a PRS650. I need counselling and medication. I am glad I am not like this in my job.

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09-02-2010, 08:31 PM	#16
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,805 Karma: 146918083 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	If you do not strip DRM or do not know how to strip DRM or even that you can strip DRM, the Kindle locks you into Amazon for eBooks with DRM. Sony does not lock you into Sony and if you have access to library eBooks in ePub, you can borrow what you want. You cannot do this with a Kindle. jswinden, most of your arguments for the K3 are based on stripping DRM/converting. Do you have any significant arguments for the K3 that do not involve DRM stripping/converting? And is there any shop other then Amazon where you can get DRMed eBooks?

09-03-2010, 02:02 AM	#18
kakakanno Enthusiast Posts: 31 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: none	not to mention the size of a prs650, it's smaller and more comfortable to carry around of cource, it looks more high-grade, too

09-03-2010, 04:19 AM	#19
SkyDream Wizard Posts: 1,377 Karma: 9400 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Europe Device: PRS-650, iPod touch 4G, iPad 3	Personally it would go for the 650. No vendor lock in, DRM/ePub support (important for public libraries). Looks better, Pearl screen too and touchscreen. Just to name a few reasons.

09-03-2010, 09:10 AM	#21
kakakanno Enthusiast Posts: 31 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: none	650 is classier and i would buy one if i had the money

09-03-2010, 10:04 AM	#23
mrscoach Guru Posts: 767 Karma: 4837659 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Angelo Texas Device: Samsung Galaxy tab	You cannot convert Sony DRM ePub books to DRM AZW eBooks, you would have to strip the DRM first, then convert to mobi, which would not contain DRM, but could be read on your Kindle.

09-03-2010, 11:59 AM	#26
Latinandgreek Warrior Princess Posts: 5,038 Karma: 9724231 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: PRS-505; PRS-350, PRS-T1, iPad, Aura HD	Both look like they are great products, but I personally will upgrade my PRS-505 to either the 650 or the 950, as I have found that I would like to have the touchscreen annotation, I like the way Sony readers render PDFs, and I often upload files in rtf to read on my reader, and would really miss that in a Kindle.

09-03-2010, 12:27 PM	#27
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09-03-2010, 03:47 PM	#29
shanghaichica Guru Posts: 991 Karma: 5782970 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Scribe,Kindle Oasis 3, iPad Pro 11,15 Pro Max,iPad mini 7,colorsoft	Well i've just bought the K3 and if I had the choice I'd still buy the K3 again. However out of the new sony's I'd say the 350 looks the best, maybe because I already have a 300.