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Old 08-18-2010, 01:10 PM   #76
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:18 PM   #77
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Who's gonna grow your food when you're all digital?
Who's gonna treat your water, make your wine, distil your scotch?
Who's gonna make those designer clothes for those digital parasites?
Who's gonna pay their taxes? You can't be healthy all your life, who's gonna take care of you, a digital doctor?

This...state of being can only be achieved by a useless few, the new junkies...
It's always been that way.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:51 PM   #78
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Who's gonna grow your food when you're all digital?
Who's gonna treat your water, make your wine, distil your scotch?
Who's gonna make those designer clothes for those digital parasites?
Who's gonna pay their taxes? You can't be healthy all your life, who's gonna take care of you, a digital doctor?

This...state of being can only be achieved by a useless few, the new junkies...
It's always been that way.
And maybe that's what is bothering me about this. Yes, I admit I'm a little jealous, and every once in a while I'd like to just go walkabout. And I love my electronics, oh yes. My cell phone, my netbook, my reader -- I'd feel lost without them. On the other side of the coin, though, I can shear a sheep, spin the wool, weave it up and sew a garment, or knit a garment. And I've got all the non-electric tools to do so. I could possibly manage to feed myself. (Okay, I'm a little weak on the food production stuff.) So yes, I like the digital life, but I recognize that there are lots of satisfying parts to living more simply, and more simply does not normally involve working less. Working cooperatively, maybe, but not less, and with less responsibility for yourself.

I've possibly veered off-topic a little bit...
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:10 PM   #79
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Who's gonna pay their taxes?
Err, they seem to all have jobs.
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:10 PM   #80
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This...state of being can only be achieved by a useless few, the new junkies...
It's always been that way.
Perhaps these are the digital hippies (the dippies?).

Information wants to be free man, put your data in the cloud man,
Turn on the iPad, tune in the wifi, drop out the system, man!

I'll get my coat.
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:16 PM   #81
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Perhaps these are the digital hippies (the dippies?).

Information wants to be free man, put your data in the cloud man,
Turn on the iPad, tune in the wifi, drop out the system, man!

I'll get my coat.
Puuuurrrrffffect!
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:40 PM   #82
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Old 08-18-2010, 06:53 PM   #83
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A DB programmer I worked with for a while had a sign like that in his office.

His assistant hung a monkey up with a sign that said "Don't Spank"
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:39 PM   #84
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And maybe that's what is bothering me about this. Yes, I admit I'm a little jealous, and every once in a while I'd like to just go walkabout. And I love my electronics, oh yes. My cell phone, my netbook, my reader -- I'd feel lost without them. On the other side of the coin, though, I can shear a sheep, spin the wool, weave it up and sew a garment, or knit a garment. And I've got all the non-electric tools to do so. I could possibly manage to feed myself. (Okay, I'm a little weak on the food production stuff.) So yes, I like the digital life, but I recognize that there are lots of satisfying parts to living more simply, and more simply does not normally involve working less. Working cooperatively, maybe, but not less, and with less responsibility for yourself.

I've possibly veered off-topic a little bit...
I feel the same duplicity you do. I like working with my hands as much as using computers................... Maybe that's why I felt at home with the Touch interface of the iPad!
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:55 PM   #85
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:00 PM   #86
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I'm a minimalist. I like the "digital lifestyle" (ew, giving me bad connotations of consumerism and "instant gratification", superficiality and so on), but I don't get that sort of thing:

Getting rid of "clutter" by way of getting rid of "stuff", only to live in other people's clutter ...
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:24 AM   #87
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Can't wait until the minimalist loses his harddrive - then what will he have?
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Maybe he has it backed up in the cloud?
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:48 AM   #89
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Who's gonna grow your food when you're all digital?
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Who's gonna pay their taxes? You can't be healthy all your life, who's gonna take care of you, a digital doctor?
LOL that sounds like a rejected verse from that old cars song.
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