Advice for the Summer - Page 3

banjobama · 07-27-2010, 11:27 PM

The Enchanted Castle by E. Nesbit-

"There were three of them, and you can't explain them away."

No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy-

"I sent one boy to the gaschamber and then I woke up."

beppe · 07-28-2010, 02:22 AM

Dante Alighieri, La divina commedia , by heart (trustable), poorly translated by me

In the middle of the path of our life we came back to see the stars.

A less literal translation, more adherent to the meaning of the original text, would read

In the middle of the path of our life, again we saw the stars.

dreams · 07-28-2010, 02:42 AM

The Tomb by F. Paul Wilson

Repairman Jack awoke with light in his eyes and waited.

Ea · 07-28-2010, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beppe

Dante Alighieri, La divina commedia , by heart (trustable), poorly translated by me

In the middle of the path of our life we came back to see the stars.

...

Hm, I tried Dante yesterday, a translation by Ole Meyer and a prose re-telling by Ebbe Kløvedal Reich, and in both cases it doesn't work

Yours do though.
BTW, no I haven't read them (yet)

beppe · 07-28-2010, 05:16 AM

Do get a study translation with plenty of notes, the thicker you can get, otherwise you will loose most of the juice. I think is the highest thing ever written, even more so then Homer and Shakespeare. Take that back who cares who is stronger. These discussions if it is better to drink malt or cognac are just to let the flavor dissipate before taking an other lively sip. Or if it is better picture taking versus taking notes for future memory.

Ea · 07-28-2010, 05:36 AM

Just a thought; the sentence structure is different in different languages. I wonder how it could affect this "trick".
It's because I've now tried a larger no. of books in Danish, and no... No good.

Ea · 07-28-2010, 06:42 AM

Civilisation, Kenneth Clark:
"I am standing on the Ponts des Arts in Paris, but one can't exactly be joyful at the prospect before us."

The universal history of numbers, Georges Ifrah:
"This book will never be completed."

Ea · 07-28-2010, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beppe

Do get a study translation with plenty of notes, the thicker you can get, otherwise you will loose most of the juice. I think is the highest thing ever written, even more so then Homer and Shakespeare. Take that back who cares who is stronger. These discussions if it is better to drink malt or cognac are just to let the flavor dissipate before taking an other lively sip. Or if it is better picture taking versus taking notes for future memory.

I think I would rather start with the prose version to get a feeling for the story. Perhaps you've actually make me want to read it now

beppe · 07-28-2010, 09:25 AM

This is a wonderful idea. I hope it says who was Duccio Cavalcanti, or Lapo. That's one of the sweetest episodes. They were his friends.
In Tuscany, in certain places, they still do public reading of it.

If it comes out that you like it I will share a little part of the merit.

When little we say Dante Alighieri spacca bicchieri. glasses breaker.

Ea · 07-28-2010, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banjobama

The Enchanted Castle by E. Nesbit-

"There were three of them, and you can't explain them away."

No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy-

"I sent one boy to the gaschamber and then I woke up."

The first one has such a funny defensive tone: "you can't! , you can't!"

beppe · 07-28-2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

Just a thought; the sentence structure is different in different languages. I wonder how it could affect this "trick".
It's because I've now tried a larger no. of books in Danish, and no... No good.

Spoiler:

It would be nice to have some quetchua member that tries this. (Andine language with 57 consonants, only spoken. To open a business in Lima, Peru you had to pass an exam in the local language, I do not know now. Comma 22 is a children game compared to their ways)

In any case your work is very useful. It helps in defining better the likelihood. Once you have that, plus the percentage of tricks (yes or no, regardless by the book being any good), plus the percentage of books (good or nogood, just to make it simple, also regardless of the trick result), I can show you, with the aid of very simple formula, how to obtain the increase of information that the trick gives to a potential buyer. Nothing is certain in presence of Chaos, but as it is the agent of Destiny, it is good to follow the gifts it gives us. Like this trick. It sounds a little like Let it be.

Ea · 07-28-2010, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beppe

[SPOILER]...

... the percentage of tricks (yes or no, regardless by the book being any good), plus the percentage of books (good or nogood, just to make it simple, also regardless of the trick result), ...

I have only good books in my home

beppe · 07-29-2010, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

I have only good books in my home

It is a good piece of information,

but two young lovers sitting on a park bench,

exchanging butterfly kisses,

would not be capable of using it.

It would require to disentangle

and write few notes on a piece of paper.

Back to square one.

beppe · 07-29-2010, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

I have only good books in my home

Ea, I was distracted by the statistical problem, and I overlooked the performance of your libraries, so it took a moment to disentangle.

But that is just wonderful! Congratulations!

beppe · 07-29-2010, 01:00 AM

We made it!

Front page

Congratulations & Credits
children team (Ea, recluse)

@dreams, banjobama, bjones6416, edbro: your post was essential
@astra: you gave us both hands. thank you

The sky is the limit!

07-28-2010, 02:22 AM	#32
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	Dante Alighieri, La divina commedia , by heart (trustable), poorly translated by me In the middle of the path of our life we came back to see the stars. A less literal translation, more adherent to the meaning of the original text, would read In the middle of the path of our life, again we saw the stars. Last edited by beppe; 07-28-2010 at 02:27 AM.

07-29-2010, 01:00 AM	#45
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	We made it! Front page Congratulations & Credits children team (Ea, recluse) @dreams, banjobama, bjones6416, edbro: your post was essential @astra: you gave us both hands. thank you The sky is the limit! Last edited by beppe; 07-29-2010 at 01:16 AM.

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banjobama Busy Read'n Posts: 980 Karma: 5039283 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Auburn, WA Device: Pocketbook Touch Lux 5	The Enchanted Castle by E. Nesbit- "There were three of them, and you can't explain them away." No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy- "I sent one boy to the gaschamber and then I woke up."

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07-28-2010, 05:16 AM	#35
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	Do get a study translation with plenty of notes, the thicker you can get, otherwise you will loose most of the juice. I think is the highest thing ever written, even more so then Homer and Shakespeare. Take that back who cares who is stronger. These discussions if it is better to drink malt or cognac are just to let the flavor dissipate before taking an other lively sip. Or if it is better picture taking versus taking notes for future memory.

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Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Just a thought; the sentence structure is different in different languages. I wonder how it could affect this "trick". It's because I've now tried a larger no. of books in Danish, and no... No good.

07-28-2010, 06:42 AM	#37
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Civilisation, Kenneth Clark: "I am standing on the Ponts des Arts in Paris, but one can't exactly be joyful at the prospect before us." The universal history of numbers, Georges Ifrah: "This book will never be completed."

07-28-2010, 09:25 AM	#39
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	This is a wonderful idea. I hope it says who was Duccio Cavalcanti, or Lapo. That's one of the sweetest episodes. They were his friends. In Tuscany, in certain places, they still do public reading of it. If it comes out that you like it I will share a little part of the merit. When little we say Dante Alighieri spacca bicchieri. glasses breaker.