Adobe reader?

fishcube · 09-26-2007, 09:42 AM

I noticed on ebooks.com that they have adobe reader format. Will this work on the Sony Reader?

I'm looking for Non-fiction Horse books that I can put on the Sony Reader.

SK

igorsk · 09-26-2007, 10:17 AM

It won't if it has DRM.

yvanleterrible · 09-26-2007, 10:24 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but Adobe Reader format is actually PDF and it is compatible with the Sony reader to some extent... unless it is locked by DRM.

RSaunders · 09-26-2007, 10:31 AM

The Adobe Digital Editions format is an encrypted PDF. You cannot use it with the Sony Reader. For a list of sources, see this thread:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11052
/Randy

fishcube · 09-26-2007, 10:35 AM

How do I know if its DRM? What is DRM?

SK

yvanleterrible · 09-26-2007, 10:39 AM

Digital Rights Management

NatCh · 09-26-2007, 10:43 AM

Digital Rights Management -- it's basically a way that publishers attempt to prevent wholesale copying of the work -- in other words: copy protection.

Trouble is, there are many approaches to DRM and they're not all inter-compatible. The other trouble is that DRM is mostly a nuisance to honest users, and less than a mild annoyance to those who actually want to rip off the content.

If you have to enter a password, or if it's listed as "Secure PDF" or something similar, then it's DRMed.

fishcube · 09-26-2007, 10:45 AM

Bummer... I had found a few books from ebooks.com and they are all adobe.

JSWolf · 09-26-2007, 10:53 AM

What books are these? Have you tried other shops for them such as Fictionwise, or BooksOnBoard to see if there might be an MS Reader format which the DRM can be removed and the file converted to LRF?

Azayzel · 09-26-2007, 11:08 AM

Guess you may be stuck with viewing these on your PC or laptop. Here's something to think about though... While many eBooks in PDF format are crippled by DRM, if the rights to print a hard copy are enabled you can print it out to another, non-DRM'd, PDF using a PostScript or PDF print driver. If you Google some, you'll have plenty to chose from, though you might want to throw the key-word freeware into your search.

If some people are wondering, some eBooks I've ran across that have been locked with DRM did have the print feature enable, though it's usually limited to a certain DPI resolution; the ones I had were restricted to output at 300dpi, which isn't bad quality.

Just a thought. Good luck!

fishcube · 09-26-2007, 12:48 PM

I'm looking for instructional books on Horses and riding (Western). I found this one at fictionwise:
http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook27251.htm

but its in secure adobe reader 7 ??

I've looked at some other sites and can't seem to find any except in adobe format such as at www.ebooks.com They seem to have the best selection.

SK

igorsk · 09-26-2007, 02:41 PM

Here's two in Microsoft Reader formar, which can be converted to LRF.
http://www.booksonboard.com/index.ph...=&s=&format=MD

RSaunders · 09-26-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What books are these? Have you tried other shops for them such as Fictionwise, or BooksOnBoard to see if there might be an MS Reader format which the DRM can be removed and the file converted to LRF?

Removing the DRM from a protected book may or may not be illegal, depending on where you live. The BooksOnBoard web site is clear that Adobe books only work on PCs that can connect to the Internet. Handhelds are specificly excluded. See: http://www.booksonboard.com/index.ph...#handheldadobe

Stephen Cole · 09-27-2007, 03:25 AM

Hi there,

I'm new to this forum and just noticed your post concerning getting PDF ebooks onto Sony Reader. I've copied below a statement that we publish concerning this issue that might clarify things. Hope this helps.

Recently there has been unconfirmed speculation that Sony will at some point enable retailers like FictionWise, eBooks.com, etc to sell ebooks in their proprietary format. But, like I said, that's not confirmed.

Best wishes,

Stephen Cole
CEO
eBooks.com

Sony has announced that their own ebook-store "is currently the only store where you can purchase books for your Sony Reader". If you buy a Sony ebook reader, you need to buy ebooks from their own ebook-store.

Almost all the ebooks that are published by well-known publishers are "copy protected". To read a copy protected ebook on the Sony device, it needs to be in their proprietary BBeB format. As far as I'm aware, only Sony sells ebooks in the proprietary BBeB format. Therefore, for all practical purposes, if you buy a Sony ebook reader, you'll need to shop at their site for commercially published ebooks.

Although there's quite a lot of material out there on the web that is not protected, those ebooks are often of dubious quality, from unknown authors and publishers.

Sony's content web site seems to have about 10,000 published ebooks (ours has 100,000), so there is already a range of titles to choose from there.
I suggest you write to Sony or check their web site to clarify and confirm the facts.

HarryT · 09-27-2007, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Cole

Hi there,

I'm new to this forum and just noticed your post concerning getting PDF ebooks onto Sony Reader. I've copied below a statement that we publish concerning this issue that might clarify things. Hope this helps.

Recently there has been unconfirmed speculation that Sony will at some point enable retailers like FictionWise, eBooks.com, etc to sell ebooks in their proprietary format. But, like I said, that's not confirmed.

Best wishes,

Stephen Cole
CEO
eBooks.com

Sorry, Stephen, but you're a little "behind the times". Fictionwise have been offering Sony's LRF format for quite some time now as one of the options for their "multiformat" e-books and magazines.

09-26-2007, 09:42 AM	#1
fishcube Connoisseur Posts: 99 Karma: 27 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Archos 5	Adobe reader? I noticed on ebooks.com that they have adobe reader format. Will this work on the Sony Reader? I'm looking for Non-fiction Horse books that I can put on the Sony Reader. SK

09-27-2007, 03:25 AM	#14
Stephen Cole New Member Posts: 21 Karma: 739 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Device: Samsung Galaxy S7	Adobe PDFs on eBooks.com and Sony Reader Hi there, I'm new to this forum and just noticed your post concerning getting PDF ebooks onto Sony Reader. I've copied below a statement that we publish concerning this issue that might clarify things. Hope this helps. Recently there has been unconfirmed speculation that Sony will at some point enable retailers like FictionWise, eBooks.com, etc to sell ebooks in their proprietary format. But, like I said, that's not confirmed. Best wishes, Stephen Cole CEO eBooks.com Sony has announced that their own ebook-store "is currently the only store where you can purchase books for your Sony Reader". If you buy a Sony ebook reader, you need to buy ebooks from their own ebook-store. Almost all the ebooks that are published by well-known publishers are "copy protected". To read a copy protected ebook on the Sony device, it needs to be in their proprietary BBeB format. As far as I'm aware, only Sony sells ebooks in the proprietary BBeB format. Therefore, for all practical purposes, if you buy a Sony ebook reader, you'll need to shop at their site for commercially published ebooks. Although there's quite a lot of material out there on the web that is not protected, those ebooks are often of dubious quality, from unknown authors and publishers. Sony's content web site seems to have about 10,000 published ebooks (ours has 100,000), so there is already a range of titles to choose from there. I suggest you write to Sony or check their web site to clarify and confirm the facts.

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09-26-2007, 10:17 AM	#2
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	It won't if it has DRM.

09-26-2007, 10:24 AM	#3
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	Correct me if I'm wrong but Adobe Reader format is actually PDF and it is compatible with the Sony reader to some extent... unless it is locked by DRM.

09-26-2007, 10:31 AM	#4
RSaunders Groupie Posts: 162 Karma: 2054 Join Date: Jan 2007 Device: Sony PRS-500	The Adobe Digital Editions format is an encrypted PDF. You cannot use it with the Sony Reader. For a list of sources, see this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11052 /Randy

09-26-2007, 10:35 AM	#5
fishcube Connoisseur Posts: 99 Karma: 27 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Archos 5	How do I know if its DRM? What is DRM? SK

09-26-2007, 10:39 AM	#6
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	Digital Rights Management

09-26-2007, 10:43 AM	#7
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Digital Rights Management -- it's basically a way that publishers attempt to prevent wholesale copying of the work -- in other words: copy protection. Trouble is, there are many approaches to DRM and they're not all inter-compatible. The other trouble is that DRM is mostly a nuisance to honest users, and less than a mild annoyance to those who actually want to rip off the content. If you have to enter a password, or if it's listed as "Secure PDF" or something similar, then it's DRMed.

09-26-2007, 10:45 AM	#8
fishcube Connoisseur Posts: 99 Karma: 27 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Archos 5	Bummer... I had found a few books from ebooks.com and they are all adobe.

09-26-2007, 10:53 AM	#9
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,936 Karma: 144284074 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	What books are these? Have you tried other shops for them such as Fictionwise, or BooksOnBoard to see if there might be an MS Reader format which the DRM can be removed and the file converted to LRF?

09-26-2007, 11:08 AM	#10
Azayzel Cache Ninja! Posts: 643 Karma: 1002300 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: PRS-500, HTC Shift, iPod Touch, iPaq 4150, TC1100, Panasonic WordsGear	Guess you may be stuck with viewing these on your PC or laptop. Here's something to think about though... While many eBooks in PDF format are crippled by DRM, if the rights to print a hard copy are enabled you can print it out to another, non-DRM'd, PDF using a PostScript or PDF print driver. If you Google some, you'll have plenty to chose from, though you might want to throw the key-word freeware into your search. If some people are wondering, some eBooks I've ran across that have been locked with DRM did have the print feature enable, though it's usually limited to a certain DPI resolution; the ones I had were restricted to output at 300dpi, which isn't bad quality. Just a thought. Good luck!

09-26-2007, 12:48 PM	#11
fishcube Connoisseur Posts: 99 Karma: 27 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Archos 5	I'm looking for instructional books on Horses and riding (Western). I found this one at fictionwise: http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook27251.htm but its in secure adobe reader 7 ?? I've looked at some other sites and can't seem to find any except in adobe format such as at www.ebooks.com They seem to have the best selection. SK

09-26-2007, 02:41 PM	#12
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Here's two in Microsoft Reader formar, which can be converted to LRF. http://www.booksonboard.com/index.ph...=&s=&format=MD