Sony Reader Daily Edition - SCOOP! - Page 17

phenomshel · 08-26-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BeccaAnn

Not too many and those that still do want you to apply for a card in person.

Too bad Overdrive couldn't operate as an international library, where anyone could apply for card for differing amounts depending on the amount/type of downloads.

LOL wow. 16 pages in 13 hours. So, other than the fact that the NYPL is huge, why is this news for anyone except those eligible for a NYPL card? What exactly does this do for those of us in rural locations, without a huge library that has ebooks for offer? The device is VERY nice, I agree, and I'd love to see one in person. I like the "new" aspect ratio of it, even though I think "tall and skinny" is going to be yucky (yes, that's the technical term

) for .pdf's, as someone else mentioned.

If NYPL (or Overdrive) was offering nationwide access for free, now THAT would be news!

Now for another question. Is the Sony Library software only available if you have a Sony reader device? I went to the download page and it doesn't seem to be the case, but I couldn't tell definitively.

AnemicOak · 08-26-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

Now for another question. Is the Sony Library software only available if you have a Sony reader device? I went to the download page and it doesn't seem to be the case, but I couldn't tell definitively.

Nope. Anyone can download it and use it on their PC/Mac. You will have to activate/register it if for some reason you wanted to buy a book. I know a few folks that use it just to get whatever freebies and read them.

phenomshel · 08-26-2009, 12:18 AM

Thanks Brian:

Ouch. I just checked on eligibility and ebook availability for the Chicago Public Library. Yes, I can get a card for free, though I have to go to Chicago for it in person, can't do it by mail or online, but their ebook selection just plain SUCKS. Only 191 titles in their mystery section. Although it beats the 2 (count 'em, TWO) titles in ebook at my public library....

kazbates · 08-26-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Donnageddon

I gotta say, after seeing the clearer screen of the 600, I am really hot for the Daily Edition. Unless Apple pulls some stunning trick, I really want to have this device,

I just think it looks great, smart and versatile.

One other question, what kind of book light would work with it? Would the long screen cause some problems for it?

Did you actually see a comparison of the screens between the 600 and the 700? I asked if anyone had been able to compare them earlier on in this thread by my post kind of got buried by all the Library enthusiasts. Not the I'm complaining, but I don't use the library for anything other than children's books and reference books.

phenomshel · 08-26-2009, 12:44 AM

Well, I know the charitable institution I'm donating to if I win the lottery, I suppose. My library! Give them a multimillion dollar grant reserved for building a decent ebook collection.

Donnageddon · 08-26-2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbates

Did you actually see a comparison of the screens between the 600 and the 700? I asked if anyone had been able to compare them earlier on in this thread by my post kind of got buried by all the Library enthusiasts. Not the I'm complaining, but I don't use the library for anything other than children's books and reference books.

Nope, not in person yet, but here and here is some compelling evidence to the quality of the 600 screen.

Looks pretty great to me! But then, I have a 505 and a 700, and I pretty much use the 700 all the time... so I may just be blind.

I am pretty happy with the limited lending opportunities here in King County and Seattle... but I think things might be getting even better on that front soon.

Time will tell, but Sony's relationship with Overdrive and the public library system may be a bigger factor than is apparent now.

But then I am not the bushiest pickle on the fig room jar.

I kinda suck at analogies too.

BuddyBoy · 08-26-2009, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMoze

You do realize that this reasoning extends logically to conclude that US libraries are funded by LOCAL taxpayers, so if you don't have a LOCAL library card and aren't paying those taxes yourself, you shouldn't have borrowing privileges. Just as it's not OK for people outside the US to borrow from US libraries, it is also not OK for people outside a library's jurisdiction to borrow books, electronic or otherwise (unless they pay a proscribed fee).

People like me who use just our own local library are being cheated by people like you who check out certain books without having legitimate borrowing privileges. I've aready been on several wait lists for ebooks at the NYPL, and it looks like it will just get worse now.

I hope they institute an ISP geographic check for book borrowing in the near future. That would help.

I hope they don't institute a geographic check, nor could they legally, since library access is allowed for folks like me - I don't live in New York but I do own property and pay taxes there.

BuddyBoy · 08-26-2009, 03:59 AM

All in All a nice new lineup. The 300 is going to be great for the new crowd, the 600 hopefully a pleasing hybrid of the best of the 700 and the 505, and the new daily edition.... well, I'm not sure where that fits in, but it's nice just the same.

The built-in library support is great, though the NYPL misunderstanding had me shaking in my boots. As a legitimate NYPL cardholder I know how difficult it can be to get popular titles, and despaired at the whole world getting free access.

One issue that I hope that have fixed in the new readers, and will retrofit to the 505 is multi-library support. With the 505 you cannot read books checked out from two different libraries - it can only support one authentication source at a time - the other books will be unreadable on the reader. I'm not sure if it's specific to pdf, epub, or both, but it can be a pita.

Buddy

Wario · 08-26-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbates

Did you actually see a comparison of the screens between the 600 and the 700? I asked if anyone had been able to compare them earlier on in this thread by my post kind of got buried by all the Library enthusiasts. Not the I'm complaining, but I don't use the library for anything other than children's books and reference books.

I want a comparison of the 505 and 600, but we have to wait until some one buy the new models. Also as Waterstones will be selling the new models, soon I hope. I just go down to my loacal store and compare my self

The Sony Reader Daily Edition, is not my cup of tea. Far to big. Then again I only want to read novel's.

Sweetpea · 08-26-2009, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Wario

I want a comparison of the 505 and 600, but we have to wait until some one buy the new models. Also as Waterstones will be selling the new models, soon I hope. I just go down to my loacal store and compare my self

The Sony Reader Daily Edition, is not my cup of tea. Far to big. Then again I only want to read novel's.

There are some comparison shots on this post:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54613

Wario · 08-26-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

There are some comparison shots on this post:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54613

It's not the same as seeing & playing with the real thing. They normally have a stand for the 505. They might have the 600 in a few weeks time.

Mr. Goodbar · 08-26-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Wario

I want a comparison of the 505 and 600, but we have to wait until some one buy the new models. Also as Waterstones will be selling the new models, soon I hope. I just go down to my loacal store and compare my self

The Sony Reader Daily Edition, is not my cup of tea. Far to big. Then again I only want to read novel's.

This was posted above, but some may have missed the embedded link.

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbt...0&Number=34238

Overall this video seems to be a much better comparison that one of the earlier ones posted. I must say the slight loss of contrast for the gained touch functionality doesn't appear to be as much of a tradeoff as the other video made it appear to be. I really like how Sony has integrated the dictionary lookup. This is much, much faster than the Kindle process. I can't wait to see a Daily Edition in person. It just might get me back in the Sony camp from my Kindle DX.

frozennorth · 08-26-2009, 11:27 AM

A better name for Sony #3 would have been "Sony Stretch".

Kind of reminds me of a limousine. I wonder if the xtra length will cause more screen breakage, or if they'll use the flexi screen on this one and that's why they won't be able to ship it till late this year.

I have a feeling the stretch may only become available in the US because of the wireless but I don't really care since I favor the 600.

Abecedary · 08-26-2009, 11:31 AM

Bear in mind that I speak no French, but le maigrichon liseuse does sound nice.

kazbates · 08-26-2009, 11:55 AM

Thanks for the links Donnageddon! I love the dictionary look-up and handwriting capabilities! And with the better screen clarity, all I have to do now is start dropping hints about how much trouble I'm having reading on the 700 and how much better it would be if I had the 600.

Knowing my husband as I do, he's almost as big a push-over for new gadgets as I am, so it won't be long before I get the 600!

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08-26-2009, 12:18 AM	#243
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	Thanks Brian: Ouch. I just checked on eligibility and ebook availability for the Chicago Public Library. Yes, I can get a card for free, though I have to go to Chicago for it in person, can't do it by mail or online, but their ebook selection just plain SUCKS. Only 191 titles in their mystery section. Although it beats the 2 (count 'em, TWO) titles in ebook at my public library....

08-26-2009, 12:44 AM	#245
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	Well, I know the charitable institution I'm donating to if I win the lottery, I suppose. My library! Give them a multimillion dollar grant reserved for building a decent ebook collection.

08-26-2009, 03:59 AM	#248
BuddyBoy eBookin' Fool Posts: 310 Karma: 1008360 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Device: Kindle Paperwhite, KK, iPad (Ex Prs 505, 500, Reb1100-2150, Rocket)	All in All a nice new lineup. The 300 is going to be great for the new crowd, the 600 hopefully a pleasing hybrid of the best of the 700 and the 505, and the new daily edition.... well, I'm not sure where that fits in, but it's nice just the same. The built-in library support is great, though the NYPL misunderstanding had me shaking in my boots. As a legitimate NYPL cardholder I know how difficult it can be to get popular titles, and despaired at the whole world getting free access. One issue that I hope that have fixed in the new readers, and will retrofit to the 505 is multi-library support. With the 505 you cannot read books checked out from two different libraries - it can only support one authentication source at a time - the other books will be unreadable on the reader. I'm not sure if it's specific to pdf, epub, or both, but it can be a pita. Buddy

08-26-2009, 11:27 AM	#253
frozennorth Evangelist Posts: 407 Karma: 18772 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Device: Onyx Boox RIP, Sony PRS-T1, Kobo Libra	A better name for Sony #3 would have been "Sony Stretch". Kind of reminds me of a limousine. I wonder if the xtra length will cause more screen breakage, or if they'll use the flexi screen on this one and that's why they won't be able to ship it till late this year. I have a feeling the stretch may only become available in the US because of the wireless but I don't really care since I favor the 600.

08-26-2009, 11:31 AM	#254
Abecedary Exwyzeeologist Posts: 535 Karma: 3261 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: :PRS-505::iPod touch:	Bear in mind that I speak no French, but le maigrichon liseuse does sound nice.

08-26-2009, 11:55 AM	#255
kazbates Wizard Posts: 2,627 Karma: 406616 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern Virginia Device: SurfacePro, SurfaceBook 2	Thanks for the links Donnageddon! I love the dictionary look-up and handwriting capabilities! And with the better screen clarity, all I have to do now is start dropping hints about how much trouble I'm having reading on the 700 and how much better it would be if I had the 600. Knowing my husband as I do, he's almost as big a push-over for new gadgets as I am, so it won't be long before I get the 600!