BEST format for 505 epub or LRF - Page 2

dordale · 07-31-2009, 08:27 PM

I voted for ePub, but I do use LRF once in a while. I think I'd use LRF more if I'd take the time to change the font on my reader. Right now, I just embed the fonts I want in my ePub files. I do like the full justification of the LRF's as opposed to left only justification that ePub displays. I also don't really like the "page" numbers on the right side of the ePUbs and wish there was a way to turn those off.

dordale

DDHarriman · 07-31-2009, 08:39 PM

For me lrf.
ePub without justification, and that joke of the page numbers hanging around, no way.

astra · 08-01-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Amalthia

I prefer LRF because of the full justification and it does not have numbers in the side margin.

doreenjoy

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I prefer LRF because I like the look of the books (justification). Also it seems to be faster when switching font sizes (something I do a lot).

and faster TOC access.

DDHarriman

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ePub without justification, and that joke of the page numbers hanging around, no way.

and like Amalthia

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I keep my source files as html for backup so I can convert to other formats in the future.

doreenjoy · 08-01-2009, 08:01 AM

I also keep the source files, if I have them, just in case.

I store the books I'm keeping on the PC, not on the Reader. For the most part I remove books from my device after I've read them. I have a non-synched "Deleted from Reader" folder on Sony Library that I drag them into, so they're easy to put back on the Reader if I ever need to.

The only time I've appreciated the "old" page numbers on the EPUB files is when I'm reading the book for academic purposes. Sometimes I need to cite the "page number" of the print book.

JSWolf · 08-01-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by astra

and faster TOC access

If you remove the anchors that Calibre puts in toc.ncx then the ToC is no slower then LRF. Also if you create toc.ncx with no anchors, it's just as fast.

astra · 08-01-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you remove the anchors that Calibre puts in toc.ncx then the ToC is no slower then LRF. Also if you create toc.ncx with no anchors, it's just as fast.

I believe you.

The problem is I have no idea what you are talking about.
I am not sure I want to learn/invest my time into it. Maybe I better spend the time for reading a good book? Maybe I am a lazy git. Maybe I am not smart enough to master the knowledge. Who knows?

The day when Book Designer is updated for creating perfect epubs is going to be the day when I become epub convert

richman · 08-01-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you remove the anchors that Calibre puts in toc.ncx then the ToC is no slower then LRF. Also if you create toc.ncx with no anchors, it's just as fast.

Same here! What is he saying? Sounds very cool but how are we to do it? I hope he goes into calibre room and passes on suggestion for improving speed of epubs on 505. Or adds option to remove "anchors" on the what-you-ma-call-it .nxc file.

I don't understand it

But it sounds good.

Must be right.

But I still don't know how to do it.

alecE · 08-01-2009, 12:13 PM

I have lrf and epub on my 505. Both are perfectly acceptable to me for reading. The lack of justification and the ghosty page numbers don't bother me. However, epub is non-proprietary and for that reason alone I prefer it. (Plus I understand how to make up epub files and have a trivial piece of vb.net to assist me in doing that - so I don't need to invest time in understanding lrf).

JSWolf · 08-01-2009, 12:44 PM

An ePub file is nothing but a ZIP file containing the contents of the ePub. toc.ncx is a file that defines the external ToC. So you extract the file toc.ncx from the ePub and then using a text editor, you can remove the anchors. I use Notepad++ which is a free editor because it supports tabs, loading of multiple files, and regular expression for easily removing the anchors. Then when the anchors are gone and the file saved, just put tit back into the ePub in place of the one there and done.

richman · 08-01-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

just put tit back into the ePub in place of the one there and done.

I'll remember to do that.

Thanks for the tips on removing anchors in ePub, good info.

Timoleon · 08-01-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kazbates

If you are converting a non-DRM file you already own, I like lrf. If you are purchasing, I would buy EPUb. You want to purchase ebooks that you can read on any reader. You never know what might happen in the future and you don't want to be locked in. I purchase LIT books and convert to lrf using Calibre. If I download from here, I download in lrf.

Good post --- you mirror my thinking exactly.

LRF looks better on the Sony, but ePub is the future. LIT is a wonderful format to convert over to something else with Calibre. Once ePub gets full justification on the Sony (will it, now that the 505 will no longer be made?), LRF will go the way of the DoDo, I bet.

astra · 08-01-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

then using a text editor, you can remove the anchors.

You see, for me an anchor it is

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an object, often made out of metal, that is used to attach a ship to the bottom of a body of water at a specific point

Lemurion · 08-04-2009, 05:36 PM

I'm with astra on the anchors.

I voted LRF. I find if I cycle through all the fonts at the beginning I can usually get fast font changes when I want them (I need a larger font for reading in bed than at my desk).

I don't mind EPUB's page numbers on the side too much - though sometimes they are a little obtrusive - and I can take or leave full justification. What I don't care for is the fixed pagination that bears no resemblance to the screen. I can see its use for academics, but when I'm reading fiction I prefer to have screen numbers rather than page numbers.

It works better for me.

mcramer · 08-05-2009, 06:38 AM

Hmm - didn't vote 'cos I'm an RTF bloke....... Don't care about TOC's etc. Images only an issue in a very few of the fiction books I read (and that's all I use my 505 for

)

Ea · 08-05-2009, 08:16 AM

I prefer LRF for the full justification.

I always buy books in a formats I can convert, and when I convert books I always set the base font size to 13, which is my preferred size. Then, when the book is opened it has just the right size and I don't have to fiddle with anything, anywhere. It just works, and I still have the file in a format I can convert in the future.

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08-01-2009, 08:01 AM	#19
doreenjoy 01000100 01001010 Posts: 1,889 Karma: 2400000 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Polyamorous	I also keep the source files, if I have them, just in case. I store the books I'm keeping on the PC, not on the Reader. For the most part I remove books from my device after I've read them. I have a non-synched "Deleted from Reader" folder on Sony Library that I drag them into, so they're easy to put back on the Reader if I ever need to. The only time I've appreciated the "old" page numbers on the EPUB files is when I'm reading the book for academic purposes. Sometimes I need to cite the "page number" of the print book. Last edited by doreenjoy; 08-01-2009 at 08:04 AM.

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07-31-2009, 08:27 PM	#16
dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	I voted for ePub, but I do use LRF once in a while. I think I'd use LRF more if I'd take the time to change the font on my reader. Right now, I just embed the fonts I want in my ePub files. I do like the full justification of the LRF's as opposed to left only justification that ePub displays. I also don't really like the "page" numbers on the right side of the ePUbs and wish there was a way to turn those off. dordale

07-31-2009, 08:39 PM	#17
DDHarriman Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 4380 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Almada, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS 505, Kindle DXG and Samsung Galaxy Note	For me lrf. ePub without justification, and that joke of the page numbers hanging around, no way.

08-01-2009, 12:13 PM	#23
alecE Evangelist Posts: 412 Karma: 546196 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK canal boat Device: sony prs505, prs650, kobo Glo HD liseuses	I have lrf and epub on my 505. Both are perfectly acceptable to me for reading. The lack of justification and the ghosty page numbers don't bother me. However, epub is non-proprietary and for that reason alone I prefer it. (Plus I understand how to make up epub files and have a trivial piece of vb.net to assist me in doing that - so I don't need to invest time in understanding lrf).

08-01-2009, 12:44 PM	#24
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,782 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	An ePub file is nothing but a ZIP file containing the contents of the ePub. toc.ncx is a file that defines the external ToC. So you extract the file toc.ncx from the ePub and then using a text editor, you can remove the anchors. I use Notepad++ which is a free editor because it supports tabs, loading of multiple files, and regular expression for easily removing the anchors. Then when the anchors are gone and the file saved, just put tit back into the ePub in place of the one there and done.

08-04-2009, 05:36 PM	#28
Lemurion eReader Posts: 2,750 Karma: 4968470 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Note 5; PW3; Nook HD+; ChuWi Hi12; iPad	I'm with astra on the anchors. I voted LRF. I find if I cycle through all the fonts at the beginning I can usually get fast font changes when I want them (I need a larger font for reading in bed than at my desk). I don't mind EPUB's page numbers on the side too much - though sometimes they are a little obtrusive - and I can take or leave full justification. What I don't care for is the fixed pagination that bears no resemblance to the screen. I can see its use for academics, but when I'm reading fiction I prefer to have screen numbers rather than page numbers. It works better for me.

08-05-2009, 06:38 AM	#29
mcramer Kiwi reader Posts: 107 Karma: 349 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Device: iPad, iPhone	Hmm - didn't vote 'cos I'm an RTF bloke....... Don't care about TOC's etc. Images only an issue in a very few of the fiction books I read (and that's all I use my 505 for )

08-05-2009, 08:16 AM	#30
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	I prefer LRF for the full justification. I always buy books in a formats I can convert, and when I convert books I always set the base font size to 13, which is my preferred size. Then, when the book is opened it has just the right size and I don't have to fiddle with anything, anywhere. It just works, and I still have the file in a format I can convert in the future.