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				Amazon ends allowing downloads
			 
			
			
			"Starting February 26, 2025, the “Download & Transfer via USB” option will no longer be available. You can still send Kindle books to your Wi-Fi enabled devices by selecting the “Deliver or Remove from Device” option. Learn more about managing downloads" 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I say we go for four!  (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() ![]() ![]() Why? Well, why not! After all, we already have these: 
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	  Yes, I've been away. And, darn...
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			I think the most appropriate would be... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Last edited by JSWolf; 02-20-2025 at 03:39 PM.  | 
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			On a related note: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I feel like I need to make a matrix/spreadsheet of what eReaders need what Operating Systems to be able to fully backup your ebooks. My wife has a Nook, and we recently switched her to a Mac, and I thought that you could decrypt the books straight off the device into Calibre like you could with a Kobo, but, no...you need either a rooted Android device or the legacy Windows app which is no longer offered. So for the time being, she's gotta hang onto that aging Windows 10 laptop just to be able to keep liberating her Nook purchases. Much in the same way that even Windows will have to hang on to an aging version of Kindle for PC to be able to get any of their books decrypted, moving forward, unless they have an old physical Kindle from which to pull the book from. I guess my point is, the eReader enthusiast community who likes to remove the DRM from their books seems to take it for granted how much this whole setup barely works, and is only one malevolent vendor update away from completely collapsing. Even Kobo is the current "best-behaved" of the eReader vendors, but only because they haven't updated their DRM scheme in some time. If they changed that tomorrow, we'd basically be completely SOL.  | 
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 And Kobo has two DRM schemes - their own (kepubs) and Adobe (epubs). Both have long since been broken. They'd have to update both of them.  | 
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			Books are mine*, not property of Amazon, if it is not possible I won't buy kindle ebook anymore.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	*I Know, Amazon says that they sell to you the right of reading the ebook on their devices or apps, I don't agree so no more Kindle ebooks.  | 
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			I agree, I get my books from Kobo, and if they stop allowing downloads, I will cease buying books. I have over 2700 books and I love rereading them.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Attempted kindness. Suggesting that his IQ was less than that of the average watermelon is so unkind.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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