News flash! Barnes & Noble buys Fictionwise for $15.7 million - Page 7

Moejoe · 03-05-2009, 01:24 PM

You get evacuated out of your house because of a bomb threat, come back a few hours later and all this has happened

Wow, things are moving extremely quickly. I wonder how long before the e-book market rockets to prominence as an option when book buying? Seems to me that every day there's a new headline, someone else moving into the business, a new reader or way of reading. The future's looking very bright.

zelda_pinwheel · 03-05-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

You get evacuated out of your house because of a bomb threat, come back a few hours later and all this has happened

Wow, things are moving extremely quickly. I wonder how long before the e-book market rockets to prominence as an option when book buying? Seems to me that every day there's a new headline, someone else moving into the business, a new reader or way of reading. The future's looking very bright.

i agree !!

(and i hope that bomb threat was a false alarm !!!

)

bwaldron · 03-05-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

We already have that situation with MobiPocket. It's not a "formal" standard, but every eInk device on the market except Sony supports it.

However, with Fictionwise owning the ereader format, their having to drop Overdrive mobi books, and now their being owned by a larger Amazon competitor (and Amazon selling Kindle books for the iPhone and possibly other devices), I'm not sure that things bode well for those folks who use Fictionwise to buy Mobipocket books.

Moejoe · 03-05-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

i agree !!

(and i hope that bomb threat was a false alarm !!!

)

Nope, it was real enough. A man, strapped with explosives took over a chemical factory not far from where I am now. He threatened to blow it up. They've arrested him, but they're still searching the building for anything he might have left behind. At least, that's what I've been told. Most of it is sketchy at the moment.

mdibella · 03-05-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Hmm.. well, given the Kindle Serial number, you can derive a Mobipocket PID, and then buy DRMed Mobipocket for the Kindle.

I can't see that there's anything to stop (except possible support issues) Fictionwise accepting Kindle serial numbers and doing the conversion on their server, to make it transparent to the user.

It doesn't work. I tried doing this, entering my Kindle PID as one of my mobipocket choices in Fictionwise. I ended up with an 'invalid PID' on my mobi list and never could remove it.

I'm guessing that Fictionwise's contract with Mobi requires that the entered PID be validated back to them, and Mobipocket recognized that this was a Kindle PID and said 'no'

AnemicOak · 03-05-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mdibella

It doesn't work. I tried doing this, entering my Kindle PID as one of my mobipocket choices in Fictionwise. I ended up with an 'invalid PID' on my mobi list and never could remove it.

I'm guessing that Fictionwise's contract with Mobi requires that the entered PID be validated back to them, and Mobipocket recognized that this was a Kindle PID and said 'no'

Entering a Kindle PID to use for a Mobi book only works with books from Over Drive, using OD's DRM server. Books from FW won't work because they come from Mobipocket's DRM server and Mobi's server won't allow Kindle PID's anymore (used to work, but not anymore). Don't know if that will ever change with OD not taking those PIDs too or not.

mjh215 · 03-05-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Certainly not. I don't think anyone's ever made THAT claim for it.

You say you never claimed that it should be a persons archival format. But wouldn't claiming it is today's "buy it once, read it anywhere" format make it the "de facto standard" archival format by your argument?

Unless I am mistaken that you are pushing for Mobipocket as being the format you recommend in every post.

To me your purchased format should be your archival format, or as close to it as possible. And that is not only for convenience but for legality purposes. Down the road it would be hard to argue your ownership of a title you stored in Tahitian Fruitybook format if no distributor sold it as such and you have no other proof of ownership.

-MJ

daffy4u · 03-05-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mdibella

It doesn't work. I tried doing this, entering my Kindle PID as one of my mobipocket choices in Fictionwise. I ended up with an 'invalid PID' on my mobi list and never could remove it.

I'm guessing that Fictionwise's contract with Mobi requires that the entered PID be validated back to them, and Mobipocket recognized that this was a Kindle PID and said 'no'

Fictionwise used to accept Kindle PID's but that option was removed. Try using BooksOnBoard.com. They still sell books using the Overdrive servers.

Brainphart · 03-05-2009, 01:42 PM

If any business is going to compete with the "Kindle" model then now is the time to do it. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see B&N roll out an eBook reader of their own. The BiNdle?

AnemicOak · 03-05-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainphart

If any business is going to compete with the "Kindle" model then now is the time to do it. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see B&N roll out an eBook reader of their own. The BiNdle?

Probably a new generation eink eBookwise using epub with eReader DRM.

zelda_pinwheel · 03-05-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Probably a new generation eink eBookwise using epub with eReader DRM.

wow, that could be really awesome actually !!

Moejoe · 03-05-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mjh215

You say you never claimed that it should be a persons archival format. But wouldn't claiming it is today's "buy it once, read it anywhere" format make it the "de facto standard" archival format by your argument?

Unless I am mistaken that you are pushing for Mobipocket as being the format you recommend in every post.

To me your purchased format should be your archival format, or as close to it as possible. And that is not only for convenience but for legality purposes. Down the road it would be hard to argue your ownership of a title you stored in Tahitian Fruitybook format if no distributor sold it as such and you have no other proof of ownership.

-MJ

The problem might be that Amazon's Mobi format might become the standard just by sheer volume of use. MP3 doesn't have the advantages of OGG or even AAC, but MP3 is the de-facto standard. I'd hate to see ePub ignored because Amazon got there first and made their Mobi format more popular.

daffy4u · 03-05-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

I'd hate to see ePub ignored because Amazon got there first and made their Mobi format more popular.

Maybe that's why Amazon chose Mobi, because it was already so popular. Was epub even around when they first started working on the Kindle?

tompe · 03-05-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

The problem might be that Amazon's Mobi format might become the standard just by sheer volume of use. MP3 doesn't have the advantages of OGG or even AAC, but MP3 is the de-facto standard. I'd hate to see ePub ignored because Amazon got there first and made their Mobi format more popular.

Amazon is not using the MobiPocket format. Currently awz-files happens to be the same as MobiPocket files but that can change anytime since Amazon has easy control over the upgrade of all readers for the format. I suspect we will soon see a change in Amazon books that makes it impossible for them to work on certain MobiPocket readers.

zelda_pinwheel · 03-05-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

The problem might be that Amazon's Mobi format might become the standard just by sheer volume of use. MP3 doesn't have the advantages of OGG or even AAC, but MP3 is the de-facto standard. I'd hate to see ePub ignored because Amazon got there first and made their Mobi format more popular.

i doubt it. in europe, most publishers are going with epub for their digital books. the kindle is big in the us but so far it's limited to that market. amazon probably hopes to take over the world with it, but epub is gaining a lot of momentum including in ways that aren't yet as visible to the consumer ; notice all the new devices being announced lately support epub, as well.

more likely is yet another format war in which ultimately the consumer loses out while the mammoths fight it out.

the good thing is, the more consumers choose epub over mobi, the more we can influence the outcome.

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Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	You get evacuated out of your house because of a bomb threat, come back a few hours later and all this has happened Wow, things are moving extremely quickly. I wonder how long before the e-book market rockets to prominence as an option when book buying? Seems to me that every day there's a new headline, someone else moving into the business, a new reader or way of reading. The future's looking very bright.

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Brainphart Compost Power Posts: 79 Karma: 62238 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee Device: Nook ST-1 Sony Reader PRS500(retired but still kicking)	If any business is going to compete with the "Kindle" model then now is the time to do it. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see B&N roll out an eBook reader of their own. The BiNdle?