Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Kobo Reader

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-23-2016, 06:49 PM   #1
tschucha
Zealot
tschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfolded
 
tschucha's Avatar
 
Posts: 147
Karma: 52546
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: Kobo Sage
Why is Aura One slower than Aura HD?

I just got an Aura One. It's now 2 or 3 years newer than the Aura HD. Why is everything on the Aura One slower? Side by side it take a second or 2 longer to boot, open books and the page turns seem slower also. What's going on? I would have expected that there would be at least a generation newer CPU in the Aura One.

I love the size of the device and the weight but why is the thing so frustratingly slow?

We also have a Kindle Oasis. That thing just blazes compared to either Kobo reader. The bigger screen and more useful user interface of the Kobo are great but what the heck did they do with the firmware?
tschucha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 03:15 AM   #2
franklekens
Addict
franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.franklekens ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
franklekens's Avatar
 
Posts: 398
Karma: 3421956
Join Date: Sep 2009
Device: various Kobo's, Onyx Note2, Pocketbook 360, Kindle Keyboard
As to the bigger screen: does anybody know how the Aura One compares to the Pocketbook Ink Pad?
franklekens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 04:29 AM   #3
DNSB
Bibliophagist
DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DNSB's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,234
Karma: 168983734
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
Quote:
Originally Posted by franklekens View Post
As to the bigger screen: does anybody know how the Aura One compares to the Pocketbook Ink Pad?
Code:
Aura One                    Pocketbook InkPad
7.8" eInk Carta             8" eInk Pearl
300 dpi                     250 dpi     
1404x1872                   1200x1600
8GB internal                4GB internal
0GB external                up to 32GB uSD card external
no audio                    3.5mm audio output jack
233 grams                   308 grams
As far as I am aware, the Ink Pad and Ink Pad 2 use the same eInk Pearl display. The Aura One's Carta screen is the newer technology (improved contrast, whatever else the manufacturer wanted to claim).

Both Kobo and Pocketbook use a customized Linux as their OS though I've seen one review which stated that Pocketbook is using Android which I had thought was only on their LCD tablets.


The Aura One is $250Cdn while the quick search for the price on the Ink Pad 2 came up with 199Euro (equivalent to $293Cdn) plus whatever the shipping would be from pocketbook.de so I felt a fair comparison to the pricing for the Aura One on Kobo's site. Compared to the Oasis which shows up on Amazon.ca for $400Cdn (adding 3g takes it to $500Cdn), either could be considered a bargain.

Last edited by DNSB; 09-24-2016 at 04:32 AM.
DNSB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 10:20 AM   #4
jiminrussell
JimInRussell
jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.jiminrussell is at one with the great books of the world.
 
jiminrussell's Avatar
 
Posts: 355
Karma: 143302
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Russell Ontario Canada
Device: kobo Aura One, Forma, Elipsa, Sage
Quote:
Originally Posted by tschucha View Post
I just got an Aura One. It's now 2 or 3 years newer than the Aura HD. Why is everything on the Aura One slower? Side by side it take a second or 2 longer to boot, open books and the page turns seem slower also. What's going on? I would have expected that there would be at least a generation newer CPU in the Aura One.

I love the size of the device and the weight but why is the thing so frustratingly slow?

We also have a Kindle Oasis. That thing just blazes compared to either Kobo reader. The bigger screen and more useful user interface of the Kobo are great but what the heck did they do with the firmware?
That is strange, My Aura one boots quite a bit faster than my Aura HD does and turns pages at the same speed despite the larger screen with more text on it. Perhaps there is something wrong with yours, try a reset or perhaps exchange it if it is that slow, something is not right that is for sure.
jiminrussell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2016, 01:35 PM   #5
Ripplinger
350 Hoarder
Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ripplinger's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,574
Karma: 8281267
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Midwest USA
Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2
Are you comparing the devices with the exact same books on each and opening the same book on both as a test?

Books incorrectly formatted can slow things down, so it must be identical circumstances to do a fair comparison.
Ripplinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2016, 11:32 PM   #6
DNSB
Bibliophagist
DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DNSB's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,234
Karma: 168983734
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
Quote:
Originally Posted by tschucha View Post
I just got an Aura One. It's now 2 or 3 years newer than the Aura HD. Why is everything on the Aura One slower? Side by side it take a second or 2 longer to boot, open books and the page turns seem slower also. What's going on? I would have expected that there would be at least a generation newer CPU in the Aura One.

I love the size of the device and the weight but why is the thing so frustratingly slow?

We also have a Kindle Oasis. That thing just blazes compared to either Kobo reader. The bigger screen and more useful user interface of the Kobo are great but what the heck did they do with the firmware?
Rather odd. I just did a side by side compare of an Aura HD, Aura H2O and Aura One with the same firmware revision, the same copy of the ebook I tested with loaded to the internal storage. I set the font, font size, line spacing, etc. to put the same amount of text on each screen.

The Aura One seems to boot faster the either the HD or the H2O which makes sense since it's internal fixed storage should be faster than the uSD cards used by the HD and H2O.

I found the page turn times on all three were close enough that I could see no consistent difference though I felt the One was slightly faster but then it's the newer toy.

If I changed the font size to use the same font size on each, the Aura One put more text on each page requiring fewer page turns with no change I could notice in the speed of the page changes.

Oddly, the reviews I found that compared the Oasis to the Aura One tended ot use phrases like: "Both configurations led to a decent performance speed, with negligible difference between the two."
DNSB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 12:20 AM   #7
tschucha
Zealot
tschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfoldedtschucha reads XML... blindfolded
 
tschucha's Avatar
 
Posts: 147
Karma: 52546
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: Kobo Sage
Quote:
Originally Posted by DNSB View Post
Rather odd. I just did a side by side compare of an Aura HD, Aura H2O and Aura One with the same firmware revision, the same copy of the ebook I tested with loaded to the internal storage. I set the font, font size, line spacing, etc. to put the same amount of text on each screen.

The Aura One seems to boot faster the either the HD or the H2O which makes sense since it's internal fixed storage should be faster than the uSD cards used by the HD and H2O.

I found the page turn times on all three were close enough that I could see no consistent difference though I felt the One was slightly faster but then it's the newer toy.

If I changed the font size to use the same font size on each, the Aura One put more text on each page requiring fewer page turns with no change I could notice in the speed of the page changes.

Oddly, the reviews I found that compared the Oasis to the Aura One tended ot use phrases like: "Both configurations led to a decent performance speed, with negligible difference between the two."
How could you use the same firmware for the Aura HD, Aura H2O and Aura One? The Aura One is running 4.xxxxxxx and the latest versions at least for the HD is 3.19xxxxx.

When I ran my psuedo tests I just took the 3 readers that we have - Kindle Oasis, Aura HD and Aura One each of which is running the latest firmware for the device. Each reader had a different set of books on them.

I set the oasis and One next to each other and the Oasis boots noticeably faster. When I repested the test with the HD and the One the HD booted faster. The page turns were also faster but this may be because the One was set to refresh on every page and I'm nnot sure what the HD was set for. I do think that the One reacts to finger presses 'better' - quick enough, accurate enough and doesn't require extra presses than the HD. The Oasis is faster though. The One's screen is phenomenal and the build quality is better than the HD. I do wish they had thrown in a faster processor though.
tschucha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 05:04 AM   #8
Ripplinger
350 Hoarder
Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ripplinger's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,574
Karma: 8281267
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Midwest USA
Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2
Quote:
Originally Posted by DNSB View Post
Rather odd. I just did a side by side compare of an Aura HD, Aura H2O and Aura One with the same firmware revision, the same copy of the ebook I tested with loaded to the internal storage. I set the font, font size, line spacing, etc. to put the same amount of text on each screen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tschucha View Post
When I ran my psuedo tests I just took the 3 readers that we have - Kindle Oasis, Aura HD and Aura One each of which is running the latest firmware for the device. Each reader had a different set of books on them.
The only way the test will give you accurate results is to use the same exact books on all readers as DNSB has done. As I said above, a badly formatted book can slow any reader down. Having a much larger number of books on one device over the others can slow it down as well. And since everyone else is showing opposite results of yours, I have to think your testing method is flawed.
Ripplinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 10:56 AM   #9
MrDrWatson
Member
MrDrWatson began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 24
Karma: 10
Join Date: May 2009
Device: Sony prs-505, Kobo Aura HD, Kobo Aura One
I moved from an Aura HD to an Aura One and the One is much faster than the HD, I tested them both with the same number of books inside and the One was faster.
The page turns also seem faster on the One.
MrDrWatson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 11:31 AM   #10
DNSB
Bibliophagist
DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DNSB's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,234
Karma: 168983734
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
Quote:
Originally Posted by tschucha View Post
How could you use the same firmware for the Aura HD, Aura H2O and Aura One? The Aura One is running 4.xxxxxxx and the latest versions at least for the HD is 3.19xxxxx.

When I ran my psuedo tests I just took the 3 readers that we have - Kindle Oasis, Aura HD and Aura One each of which is running the latest firmware for the device. Each reader had a different set of books on them.

I set the oasis and One next to each other and the Oasis boots noticeably faster. When I repested the test with the HD and the One the HD booted faster. The page turns were also faster but this may be because the One was set to refresh on every page and I'm nnot sure what the HD was set for. I do think that the One reacts to finger presses 'better' - quick enough, accurate enough and doesn't require extra presses than the HD. The Oasis is faster though. The One's screen is phenomenal and the build quality is better than the HD. I do wish they had thrown in a faster processor though.
I installed the 4.0.7523 firmware on the Aura HD and the Aura H2O (basically, just copy the KoboRoot.tgz file from the firmware .zip file into the .kobo\Kobo directory and let it install). I also installed those of GeoffR's patches that I use. I removed the uSD cards from the HD and the H2O and sideloaded a single book into the internal storage of each. I checked the settings between all three to make sure they were set as close as possible to identical.

Oddly, I find the opposite to you with the touch screen. I was so used to the IR touch where no contact is required and had to learn to actually touch the screen on the Aura One. Once I got used to that, it seems to respond to my swipes more reliably.

An newer processor would have been nice to have but so far there don't seem to be many members to the iMX7 family. For an eInk device, the Freescale iMX7 Dual (to get the EPD) might have been a good choice since if it lives up to it's promises, a lot of what is currently done in software will be done in hardware, page turns with the integrated Regal waveform support as an example.
DNSB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 01:21 PM   #11
jackastor
Wizard
jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jackastor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
jackastor's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,847
Karma: 3212428
Join Date: Jun 2011
Device: iphone stanza, kobo touch,ASUS TF300,KOBO GLO, Kobo Aura HD, Kobo Mini
Quote:
Originally Posted by tschucha View Post
How could you use the same firmware for the Aura HD, Aura H2O and Aura One? The Aura One is running 4.xxxxxxx and the latest versions at least for the HD is 3.19xxxxx.

When I ran my psuedo tests I just took the 3 readers that we have - Kindle Oasis, Aura HD and Aura One each of which is running the latest firmware for the device. Each reader had a different set of books on them.

I set the oasis and One next to each other and the Oasis boots noticeably faster. When I repested the test with the HD and the One the HD booted faster. The page turns were also faster but this may be because the One was set to refresh on every page and I'm nnot sure what the HD was set for. I do think that the One reacts to finger presses 'better' - quick enough, accurate enough and doesn't require extra presses than the HD. The Oasis is faster though. The One's screen is phenomenal and the build quality is better than the HD. I do wish they had thrown in a faster processor though.

How about posting a picture of all the readers side by side with the software versions showing.

Regards

Jack
jackastor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2016, 02:01 PM   #12
Cinisajoy
Just a Yellow Smiley.
Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Cinisajoy ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Cinisajoy's Avatar
 
Posts: 19,161
Karma: 83862859
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas
Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy
Sounds like either a corrupt file or a defective device.
Cinisajoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Aura One:Post a picture of the Aura One beside a Hardcover & a Mass Market Paperback avg123 Kobo Reader 4 09-07-2016 03:35 AM
Aura HD Kobo Glo/Aura/Aura HD future firmware feature request thread arspr Kobo Reader 25 03-26-2015 05:19 AM
Glo to Aura Upgrade Questions (Are Reading Stats Available on Aura)? TimeEffect Kobo Reader 8 05-05-2014 12:10 AM
Sell Early Spring Cleaning: Sleeves and Covers for Aura, Aura HD, Sony, Kindle, & iPad Fanchee Flea Market 0 02-14-2014 04:13 PM
Dymo tape fix for eBay Kobo Aura and Aura HD covers RobertJSawyer Kobo Reader 2 02-10-2014 10:34 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:28 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.