Page turn holding Kobo with left hand

Rizla · 10-12-2015, 10:40 AM

I have a problem. I like to turn pages by tapping. However, when I hold the Kobo (an Aura HD) with my left hand, I have to reach across to the right side of the screen to turn to the next page. Very awkward.

Ideally I would like to be able to turn to the next page by tapping anywhere on the screen, and turning back to the previous page by a back swipe.

Is there any way to do this? I am using Nickel. I don't wish to use Koreader or Coolreader.

oren64 · 10-12-2015, 10:56 AM

You can set page control to second to the right see pic.
if tap in left side it go next page, if swipe ltr it go page back.

Rizla · 10-12-2015, 11:03 AM

Thanks for posting the image. The only one that comes close to what I want is the fourth option, and in that case, only the lower third of the screen does a next page. I don't hold the device at the bottom. My thumb tends to be in the middle or in the upper third of the screen, so it looks awkward. Shame they don't have the option where the forward page zone is in the top third. But I'll give it a try.

Previous page is rarely used, and yet it gets almost the same emphasis in the choice of Nickel page control options as forward page. No way to customize it I suppose?

JSWolf · 10-12-2015, 11:04 AM

Why not use the third option?

oren64 · 10-12-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizla

Ideally I would like to be able to turn to the next page by tapping anywhere on the screen, and turning back to the previous page by a back swipe.

The third option is Ideally for you.

rogerinnyc · 10-12-2015, 12:33 PM

I'm with Rizla. I've wanted a fifth option for a long time -- tap anywhere for page forward and relegate page back to only swiping. But I don't think it's going to happen!

Rizla · 10-12-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Why not use the third option?

Because if I swap hands (which I do a lot), then the configuration becomes suddenly unworkable. Now I have to reach over to the far side of the screen to change a page. I'm back at square one. I need a configuration that will work no matter what hand I am holding the device in, an ambidextrous setting.

One alternative way of dealing with it would be if there was a fast way to swap configurations. But if I have to go back to the home screen, choose options, go to configuration for screen, choose the new option...Well, it's less than user-friendly. Oh, and then ten minutes later, I want to change hands again...

Initially I was using Coolreader to get round this, but I want to use Nickel and its font options.

JSWolf · 10-12-2015, 01:36 PM

My suggestion is to do what I do. I don't tap. I swap. I can use either hand on either side of the screen and I can turn the page back or forward no problem. I got used to swiping using a Sony Reader PRS-650. Also by swiping, you get less fingerprints and you can swipe off dust and other stuff on screen. Swiping has many more advantages to tapping.

dordale · 10-12-2015, 02:08 PM

I'm with Jon on this--coming from a Sony PRS-650 and PRS-350 I'm used to swiping. Swiping right to left anywhere on the screen moves the page forward and the opposite (left to right) moves one page backward. In my opinion, swiping is as efficient as tapping and since it can be done anywhere on the screen you don't have to worry about tap zones. YMMV of course.

Ripplinger · 10-12-2015, 05:01 PM

I agree about swiping as well (previous PRS-350). But I do know a lot of people don't like to swipe, and that's perfectly fine that they want to tap and do it their way. Swipers won't convince tappers to change anymore than tappers will convince swipers to change how they turn pages.

I don't know how it could be made better though for tappers than the 4th option, and all ereaders without physical buttons have the same limitation when it comes to tapping. I switch hands holding the reader often, I think everyone does. Swiping just always seemed to be a natural movement for a page turn for me (although it definitely takes a larger more deliberate swipe on the Kobo than the Sonys did).

Rizla · 10-12-2015, 05:08 PM

I also owned a 650. With prs+ I was able to tap or swipe and it also had buttons. The navigational controls under nickel are much inferior to the old 650 and are woefully inadequate. It doesnt help that the Aura HD touchscreen is not very sensitive. Im Dissapointed in this aspect of the Kobo. There appears to be no way round it.

Rizla · 10-12-2015, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripplinger

I don't know how it could be made better though for tappers than the 4th option, and all ereaders without physical buttons have the same limitation when it comes to tapping.

I use a rooted nook st with reading apps like coolreader and alreader. I am able to configure touch navigation how I want. It is far more configurable than nickel. So no, not all ereaders without buttons have the same limitation. This is a limitation in nickel.

davidfor · 10-12-2015, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizla

One alternative way of dealing with it would be if there was a fast way to swap configurations. But if I have to go back to the home screen, choose options, go to configuration for screen, choose the new option...Well, it's less than user-friendly. Oh, and then ten minutes later, I want to change hands again...

You don't have to go back to the home screen. Tap the screen to bring up the menu bars, tap the menu icon in the bottom right and select the settings option. Not ideal, but quicker than going to the home page.

Also, the general settings is available from the top right menu icon.

rogerinnyc · 10-12-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripplinger

....I don't know how it could be made better though for tappers than the 4th option, and all ereaders without physical buttons have the same limitation when it comes to tapping. .

The 4th option, as Rizla said, only covers about the bottom third of the screen for page forward. If you hold your reader higher (or shift your grip at any time), you're out of luck. If the 4th option had about 2/3rds of the screen for page forward that would be a reasonable compromise for those who still want a tap option for page backward.

Check out MoonReader+, the best-selling ereader on Android. Highly configurable, including tap anywhere for page forward.

Rizla · 10-12-2015, 10:47 PM

And coolreader and alreader...Anyway, thanks for the tips.

10-12-2015, 10:40 AM	#1
Rizla Member Retired Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2	Page turn holding Kobo with left hand I have a problem. I like to turn pages by tapping. However, when I hold the Kobo (an Aura HD) with my left hand, I have to reach across to the right side of the screen to turn to the next page. Very awkward. Ideally I would like to be able to turn to the next page by tapping anywhere on the screen, and turning back to the previous page by a back swipe. Is there any way to do this? I am using Nickel. I don't wish to use Koreader or Coolreader.

10-12-2015, 10:56 AM	#2
oren64 I need a chapter break Posts: 4,042 Karma: 56058267 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Israel Device: Kobo Glo	You can set page control to second to the right see pic. if tap in left side it go next page, if swipe ltr it go page back. Attached Thumbnails

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10-12-2015, 11:03 AM	#3
Rizla Member Retired Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2	Thanks for posting the image. The only one that comes close to what I want is the fourth option, and in that case, only the lower third of the screen does a next page. I don't hold the device at the bottom. My thumb tends to be in the middle or in the upper third of the screen, so it looks awkward. Shame they don't have the option where the forward page zone is in the top third. But I'll give it a try. Previous page is rarely used, and yet it gets almost the same emphasis in the choice of Nickel page control options as forward page. No way to customize it I suppose?

10-12-2015, 11:04 AM	#4
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,782 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Why not use the third option?

10-12-2015, 12:33 PM	#6
rogerinnyc Addict Posts: 237 Karma: 944808 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Forma and Aura One; Kindle Voyage; OnePlus 12 Pro	I'm with Rizla. I've wanted a fifth option for a long time -- tap anywhere for page forward and relegate page back to only swiping. But I don't think it's going to happen!

10-12-2015, 01:36 PM	#8
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,782 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	My suggestion is to do what I do. I don't tap. I swap. I can use either hand on either side of the screen and I can turn the page back or forward no problem. I got used to swiping using a Sony Reader PRS-650. Also by swiping, you get less fingerprints and you can swipe off dust and other stuff on screen. Swiping has many more advantages to tapping.

10-12-2015, 02:08 PM	#9
dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	I'm with Jon on this--coming from a Sony PRS-650 and PRS-350 I'm used to swiping. Swiping right to left anywhere on the screen moves the page forward and the opposite (left to right) moves one page backward. In my opinion, swiping is as efficient as tapping and since it can be done anywhere on the screen you don't have to worry about tap zones. YMMV of course.

10-12-2015, 05:01 PM	#10
Ripplinger 350 Hoarder Posts: 3,587 Karma: 8281267 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest USA Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2	I agree about swiping as well (previous PRS-350). But I do know a lot of people don't like to swipe, and that's perfectly fine that they want to tap and do it their way. Swipers won't convince tappers to change anymore than tappers will convince swipers to change how they turn pages. I don't know how it could be made better though for tappers than the 4th option, and all ereaders without physical buttons have the same limitation when it comes to tapping. I switch hands holding the reader often, I think everyone does. Swiping just always seemed to be a natural movement for a page turn for me (although it definitely takes a larger more deliberate swipe on the Kobo than the Sonys did).

10-12-2015, 05:08 PM	#11
Rizla Member Retired Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2	I also owned a 650. With prs+ I was able to tap or swipe and it also had buttons. The navigational controls under nickel are much inferior to the old 650 and are woefully inadequate. It doesnt help that the Aura HD touchscreen is not very sensitive. Im Dissapointed in this aspect of the Kobo. There appears to be no way round it.

10-12-2015, 10:47 PM	#15
Rizla Member Retired Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2	And coolreader and alreader...Anyway, thanks for the tips.

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