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Old 10-07-2014, 12:06 PM   #31
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If you have a Kindle, you can send Overdrive library books from Amazon's servers to your Kindle; no ADE involved.
Only if you live in the US, and 95% of people don't .
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Old 10-07-2014, 01:07 PM   #32
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Apparently ADE 2 is safe, also possibly version 3. Luckily I hadn't upgraded to the infested #4. But now I am very wary of anything with a spyware taint, be it intentional on Adobe's part or a really stupid programming screw up, so a substitute would be welcome.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:41 PM   #33
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Anyone concerned about buying books with DRM they can't remove should stick with ADE 2.x. At any time the books downloaded through ADE 3.x and 4.x could come with a new DRM scheme, once someone decides to flip a switch.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:04 PM   #34
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Anyone concerned about buying books with DRM they can't remove should stick with ADE 2.x. At any time the books downloaded through ADE 3.x and 4.x could come with a new DRM scheme, once someone decides to flip a switch.
Taking into consideration that not every ebook consumer is technically interested enough on these matters, exactly this switch-flipping might be the shit-hits-fan event leading to a webwide uproar and shitstorm needed for a change.
The amount of vote-with-your-wallet boycoteers and prepared DRM-removers is to small a subset of the customer base to provoke a change.
Maybe myriads of DRM-ignorant owners of older readers would be enough for building up a critical mass. This is why I wait for somebody pushing the big button.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:24 PM   #35
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Ah, so THIS is what people mean when the say that the ADE ecosystem is more "open" than Amazon's ecosystem! They mean it "opens" all the data on your computer for Adobe to look at!

The argument makes much more sense now!
Does Amazon scan the contents of your Kindle and phone it home?
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:31 PM   #36
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Does Amazon scan the contents of your Kindle and phone it home?
Perhaps the Kindle dev forum participants can answer more authoritatively, but I don't think so, beyond the data you'd expect in a cloud-synced system. I seem to recall claims of such over the years and never any proof, despite hackers monitoring device traffic and such.

So the conclusion seems clear: If Amazon is secretly spying on you, they're better at it than Adobe is!
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:35 PM   #37
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That thread from 2011 demonstrates that ADE knew about a book in Calibre that had no connection to ADE. Are we sure older versions of ADE were not scanning for user files it had no business scanning?
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:37 PM   #38
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Perhaps the Kindle dev forum participants can answer more authoritatively, but I don't think so, beyond the data you'd expect in a cloud-synced system. I seem to recall claims of such over the years and never any proof, despite hackers monitoring device traffic and such.

So the conclusion seems clear: If Amazon is secretly spying on you, they're better at it than Adobe is!
Agreed, if they do it, it must be well encrypted.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:42 PM   #39
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Older versions of ADE scan a device to add the books on that device to the local ADE library, but that is a different thing to sending information about books in the ADE library back to Adobe.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:47 PM   #40
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If you've already installed Adobe DE 4, would uninstalling the program be enough for it to stop sending data from your computer?
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:56 PM   #41
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If you've already installed Adobe DE 4, would uninstalling the program be enough for it to stop sending data from your computer?
I've uninstalled it and the data collection stopped (I think).
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Old 10-07-2014, 05:38 PM   #42
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Shouldn't it stop when you close ADE4???

Or is it installed as a "service".
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Shouldn't it stop when you close ADE4???

Or is it installed as a "service".
This is my concern...
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I knew there was a good reason I never wanted to install Adobe. Now I never will. Isn't scanning your computer without permission illegal like opening and reading someone's mail? Even the government would need a warrant. How could a business get away with it? Is this a sueable invasion of privacy?
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If you have a Kindle, you can send Overdrive library books from Amazon's servers to your Kindle; no ADE involved. I guess there are some Overdrive books which are not available in Kindle format; I haven't come across them myself.
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... in the USA. There's no such thing as a Kindle library book
here (or in many other places, I believe).
Excerpt from OverDrive Help: What formats work with Android devices? >> Supported Formats

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Kindle Books (U.S. only): You can use your Android device to borrow Kindle Books from your library and send them to a Kindle device or Kindle reading app.
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