Sigil 0.7.4 delete line with nbsp;!

PePaXY · 01-17-2014, 12:30 PM

I do not know how to add new thread, so I try this.
In Sigil v0.7.4 I put a blank line nbsp; 
Sigil change it to # 160; and then delete it!

I just wanted to let Sigil me there   not changed nbsp to the #160

DiapDealer · 01-17-2014, 12:33 PM

What operating system, and what are the exact steps to reproduce it?

The change to #160 is expected behavior in 0.7.4. The deletion of a line is clearly not.

mrmikel · 01-18-2014, 06:23 AM

Doesn't it need the ampersand in front of #?

DiapDealer · 01-18-2014, 06:54 AM

I'm assuming the & was left out because the forum will actually render the entity if you enter it.

Jellby · 01-18-2014, 07:59 AM

There's a trick for that:

&[noparse]#160;[/noparse] ->  

HarryT · 01-18-2014, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PePaXY

I do not know how to add new thread

Go into the forum and click the "New Thread" blue button immediately above the list of thread titles.

DiapDealer · 01-18-2014, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellby

There's a trick for that:

Now THAT will come in handy. Thanks!

Start · 01-18-2014, 04:13 PM

I saw the same problem. Now I have installed 0.72 as I don't want to see blank-lines deleted.

I don't remember exactly what happened.

I saved continously my ebook, I inserted some blank lines, and two or three new sentences. Nothing else. It was late and I was tired. Only a final glimpse in book viewer and I found out no blank spaces among paragraphs!

After that I tested it for a replica of this deletion, but nothing at all... and so It was impossible to post here the problem without any evidence. There is always the idea of a mistake by me, too...

But if someone else has the same "surprise", well, I change my mind.

PePaXY · 01-19-2014, 12:22 PM

I just wanted to let Sigil me there  , not that it changed the *

PePaXY · 01-19-2014, 12:24 PM

I just wanted to let Sigil me there   not that it changed the &#160;

mrmikel · 01-19-2014, 12:38 PM

This why it can be better to use CSS to give you space between paragraphs instead of using blank lines. It can also be much easier to vary the space until you get it just so, since all you have to vary is the css in the stylesheet and presto all the paragraphs are adjusted.

Toxaris · 01-19-2014, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PePaXY

I just wanted to let Sigil me there   not that it changed the &#160;

Then you need to use version 0.7.2. There is not a big difference between the two actually.

Doitsu · 02-15-2014, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

What operating system, and what are the exact steps to reproduce it?

The change to #160 is expected behavior in 0.7.4. The deletion of a line is clearly not.

I did some tests and was able to reproduce the problem on my Windows machine.

1. Open Sigil and select Edit > Preferences > Clean Source: select HTML Tidy, enable the Save check box and disable the Open check box.
2. Insert the following HTML code between two paras in Source View mode:  
3. Switch back to Book View mode and insert or delete a character.
4. Switch back to Code View. You'll see that Sigil 0.7.4 has replaced the non-breaking space with  . (So far so good.)
5. Save the file and close Sigil.
6. Reopen the file. Note that Sigl has replaced   with a regular space.
7. Save the file again.   will be deleted by HTML Tidy, which was to be expected.

tl;dr Sigil 0.7.4 will replace   with a regular space unless the Clean Source Open option (Pretty Print or HTML Tidy) has been enabled.

Please find attached a test file, in which a non-breaking space has been encoded as  . If you open it with the Clean Source Open option disabled, it'll be replaced by a regular space. If the Clean Source Open option is enabled, it'll replaced by  .

DiapDealer · 02-15-2014, 10:30 AM

I can indeed duplicate that situation in 0.7.4. Thanks.

It certainly qualifies as a bug, but I've always felt that anyone who leaves HTML Tidy (not Pretty Print) turned on does so at the risk of their code getting screwed up at some time or another.

eschwartz · 02-15-2014, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I can indeed duplicate that situation in 0.7.4. Thanks.

It certainly qualifies as a bug, but I've always felt that anyone who leaves HTML Tidy (not Pretty Print) turned on does so at the risk of their code getting screwed up at some time or another.

All the more so that this shouldn't ONLY be broken for people who leave it off.

01-18-2014, 04:13 PM	#8
Start Enthusiast Posts: 39 Karma: 197564 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Solar System, planet Earth Device: Tolino Shine 2 HD	... me too I saw the same problem. Now I have installed 0.72 as I don't want to see blank-lines deleted. I don't remember exactly what happened. I saved continously my ebook, I inserted some blank lines, and two or three new sentences. Nothing else. It was late and I was tired. Only a final glimpse in book viewer and I found out no blank spaces among paragraphs! After that I tested it for a replica of this deletion, but nothing at all... and so It was impossible to post here the problem without any evidence. There is always the idea of a mistake by me, too... But if someone else has the same "surprise", well, I change my mind.

01-19-2014, 12:24 PM	#10
PePaXY Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2014 Device: PB 622 Touch	I just wanted to let Sigil me there   not that it changed the &#160; Last edited by PePaXY; 01-19-2014 at 12:27 PM.

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01-17-2014, 12:30 PM	#1
PePaXY Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2014 Device: PB 622 Touch	Sigil 0.7.4 delete line with nbsp;! I do not know how to add new thread, so I try this. In Sigil v0.7.4 I put a blank line <p> nbsp; </ p> Sigil change it to <p> # 160; </ p> and then delete it! I just wanted to let Sigil me there   not changed nbsp to the #160 Last edited by PePaXY; 01-19-2014 at 12:31 PM.

01-17-2014, 12:33 PM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	What operating system, and what are the exact steps to reproduce it? The change to #160 is expected behavior in 0.7.4. The deletion of a line is clearly not.

01-18-2014, 06:23 AM	#3
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	Doesn't it need the ampersand in front of #?

01-18-2014, 06:54 AM	#4
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I'm assuming the & was left out because the forum will actually render the entity if you enter it.

01-18-2014, 07:59 AM	#5
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,570 Karma: 20150435 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	There's a trick for that: &[noparse]#160;[/noparse] ->

01-19-2014, 12:22 PM	#9
PePaXY Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2014 Device: PB 622 Touch	I just wanted to let Sigil me there  , not that it changed the *

01-19-2014, 12:38 PM	#11
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	This why it can be better to use CSS to give you space between paragraphs instead of using blank lines. It can also be much easier to vary the space until you get it just so, since all you have to vary is the css in the stylesheet and presto all the paragraphs are adjusted.

02-15-2014, 10:30 AM	#14
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I can indeed duplicate that situation in 0.7.4. Thanks. It certainly qualifies as a bug, but I've always felt that anyone who leaves HTML Tidy (not Pretty Print) turned on does so at the risk of their code getting screwed up at some time or another.