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Old 08-29-2013, 04:02 AM   #196
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I get you hate Amazon, and that's perfectly acceptable but calling Sony ereaders Cheap is going a bit too far. They are pitting their new ereader without a front light against all the other 'non lighted' ereaders at roughly 1.5 times the cost. Nothing cheap about that.

I have a kindle yet buy all my books from other places, I buy nothing from Amazon, yet I email all my books to Amazon, they store them for me on their servers and send them to my Kindle, exactly the same way they would treat books I would have bought from them. Plus my ereader costs less than the new Sony, and is front lit.

That's the infrastructure and service which makes Amazon the most successful ereader manufacturer and retailer.

I always strongly opposed the Amazon way of doing things, but you make some valid points.
I would have bought a Kindle a long time ago if it had additionally supported ePUB alongside their own proprietary format.
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Old 08-29-2013, 04:19 AM   #197
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Old 08-29-2013, 05:22 AM   #198
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Someone who likes to read should use a Reader that doesn't force the user into a closed system like Kobo tries to do and Amazon actually does.
Are you sure you're not confusing Kobo with Nook? Because I don't see any closed system on my Kobo. The ebooks bought from kobobooks work just fine on my Sony. The ones bought from the Sony store ... oh, wait! there's no Sony store for ebooks in France (though there's a partnership with another bookseller).

As much as I like my 650, there was no store integration before the T2 (on the T1, the link was leading nowhere) and there is no French dictionary. So in France, the Sony products are racing with some disadvantages. The good software and the evernote integration seem to have been selling points. On a French Sony forum I can see several people who were expecting some frontlight on the T3. I have no idea whether it's going to sell well here

Edit: from the way I use it, the communication with Calibre seems as good with Kobo as with Sony.
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:35 AM   #199
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Because it is the only one you're supposed to use with this device. Even people in Russia in 1952 had more freedom.
Would you be kind enough to point out to me where in Amazon's licence agreement they state that only books bought from Amazon can be used on the device? Why would they provide the ability to load your own books if you were only "supposed" to use ones bought from them?
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:52 AM   #200
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Because it is the only one you're supposed to use with this device. Even people in Russia in 1952 had more freedom. And Amazon forgot to put a slot for a Micro SD card into this thing, too. But they put 5 LED lamps à 15 Cents into it. This is ridiculous imho.
I think that's a fair point. Why should an e-reader be limited to it manufacturer's store? The business model is proprietary and excludes competition. You buy a Kindle and you have to buy a book from Amazon and only Amazon. Sure you can buy from other stores, strip DRM and side-load, but how many users can do that or can be bothered to do that? Amazon doesn't even allow users to use epub and has created its own format to discourage users from using other sources. Sure, you can convert, but again, not many users are able to do this. The business model is extremely aggressive. At least Kobo reads epubs. This is part of the appeal of Sony to many users. It is the most open platform of the three big players.
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:54 AM   #201
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Would you be kind enough to point out to me where in Amazon's licence agreement they state that only books bought from Amazon can be used on the device? Why would they provide the ability to load your own books if you were only "supposed" to use ones bought from them?
They discourage it by making it hard to do. You are aware that Kindle use their own file formats.
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:05 AM   #202
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I don't understand why people let their obvious like (or dislike) of one company's e-reader cloud their judgement over others, so much to the point they need to try and come up with reasons to validate it - usually reasons that have only a small kernel of truth to them too, as alvina (IMHO), is doing here?
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:06 AM   #203
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Would you be kind enough to point out to me where in Amazon's licence agreement they state that only books bought from Amazon can be used on the device? Why would they provide the ability to load your own books if you were only "supposed" to use ones bought from them?
Sure it's not impossible. In theory, you can buy a book anywhere, stripp the DRM off, then you convert it with the command line tool KindleGen, then you can delete the Mobi part out of the AZW3 file with a Hex Editor, and then you can copy & paste this to your Kindle. No problem. But be careful, you only have 1 GB.

But this is a bit annoying for some people. I really don't understand why, but so it is. And since a good Reader from Sony doesn't need all this, since you can simply pug as many different Micro SD cards as you like into it, smart people simply buy a Sony.
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:10 AM   #204
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Don't the truly smart people buy something like a Nook ST because it can currently be bought for a ridiculously cheap price, very easily modded and install their reader app of choice on it so they can read any book from any store?
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:20 AM   #205
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Don't the truly smart people buy something like a Nook ST because it can currently be bought for a ridiculously cheap price, very easily modded and install their reader app of choice on it so they can read any book from any store?
Nook don't sell into Aus ....Sony and Kobo and Amazon do.

Add me to the list of people who think the Amazon business model of proprietary format sucks.
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Sure it's not impossible. In theory, you can buy a book anywhere, stripp the DRM off, then you convert it with the command line tool KindleGen, then you can delete the Mobi part out of the AZW3 file with a Hex Editor, and then you can copy & paste this to your Kindle.
You've got to be joking. Or you like to make things far more complicated than they need to be.
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Sure it's not impossible. In theory, you can buy a book anywhere, stripp the DRM off, then you convert it with the command line tool KindleGen, then you can delete the Mobi part out of the AZW3 file with a Hex Editor, and then you can copy & paste this to your Kindle.
What are you talking about? Last time I chucked epubs onto a Kindle (DRm already stripped, a 10-second process), I told Calibre it was talking to a Kindle, and it took care of the rest. It's a virtually brain-free procedure.
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Heck yeah. That is a smart choice! Get a used one, add Nook Manager, and away you go!
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