New Irex Reader 1000 - Page 2

HarryT · 09-19-2008, 03:52 AM

I hope that iRex will improve the Mobi Reader app for this device - the one on the iLiad is pretty horrible.

tonyofla · 09-19-2008, 04:46 AM

Yes, improving the mobi reader would be my number priority also. After that, something that would make better (well any!) use of the wifi. Some sort of sleep/instant on function would be terrific but I think I read someplace that isn’t possible with the current readers? (forgotten why and not sure I understood it at the time!)

Shaggy · 09-19-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I hope that iRex will improve the Mobi Reader app for this device - the one on the iLiad is pretty horrible.

They've said that there will also be a new software announcement on Monday. Hopefully, it's the viewer framework they've been talking about. There have also been posts in the past on the mobipocket forums from their developers saying that they're working with iRex on a new Mobipocket application for the iLiad.

nekokami · 09-19-2008, 10:05 AM

Very cool. But they'd better have some kind of suspend mode in this model. And an interface that can show more than 6 documents at once.

axel77 · 09-19-2008, 10:18 AM

What I read of this I think iRex figured the same, as I was thinking. There is a yet unused "high class market", they should settle on, and leave the "cheap" mass market to amazon and sony to fight over...

-Thomas- · 09-19-2008, 11:30 AM

Offering a version without touch screen implies a major software change, as the content lister can't be accessed completely without the stylus. So let's hope for some really great improvements on the software side. Hopefully my current iLiad can profit from it too.

Shaggy · 09-19-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by -Thomas-

Offering a version without touch screen implies a major software change, as the content lister can't be accessed completely without the stylus. So let's hope for some really great improvements on the software side. Hopefully my current iLiad can profit from it too.

Just curious, what part of the content lister? You can use the up/down arrows and select button to move through the content lister and open books.

nekokami · 09-19-2008, 12:12 PM

The buttons at the bottom, which allow (for example) editing the tags, can't be used without the stylus. Really, the iLiad loses a lot of functionality without the stylus.

It sure would be nice to see pressure-sensitivity supported, if they're going to stick with Wacom. This would make a great artist's sketch tablet if they did that. They also need a draw app.

Over · 09-19-2008, 12:13 PM

So, we have competition between Astak's 9,7" ereader and iRex's 10,2" one? What was the latest price estimation for Astak's?

Mambo · 09-19-2008, 01:33 PM

It's hard to believe that one will be 9.7 the other will be 10.2. I think it will be still a screen produced by PVI, we don't know the actual specs yet.

Why would you put effort in developing a 10.2 inch screen when PVI is also developing a 9.7, this doesn't make sense to me, but I can be wrong as well, let's see on monday.

carandol · 09-19-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nathany

Very interesting. There are 50 computer programming books sitting on my Mac in PDF format. I think they would like to be on an iRex Reader 1000. ^_^

Only if they upgrade the PDF software so you can search and actually see the contents bookmarks. At the moment the iLiad is a dead loss for using reference books.

Shaggy · 09-19-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mambo

It's hard to believe that one will be 9.7 the other will be 10.2. I think it will be still a screen produced by PVI, we don't know the actual specs yet.

Why would you put effort in developing a 10.2 inch screen when PVI is also developing a 9.7, this doesn't make sense to me, but I can be wrong as well, let's see on monday.

Keep in mind that PVI builds the screens, they don't create the parts that are used to build it. Most screens today that are built by PVI use a eInk layer from Eink Corp, and a display controller developed by iRex. Even the Kindle/Sony (at least the 500), and others are using the 6" display controller that was developed by iRex.

iRex not only developed the 6" controller, but they also developed the unique 8.1" controller that the iLiads use. They had a deal that they were the only ones who could have PVI build them a screen using that controller. That's also why the iLiad is the only device with 16 shades. It's controlled by their unique display controller.

I don't know the details on the 9.7 and 10.2 controllers, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that something similar is going on. IE, iRex has created a unique 10.2 controller (in addition to the generic 9.7 one) that can only be used by PVI to build displays for the new iRex 1000 device.

Shaggy · 09-19-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

The buttons at the bottom, which allow (for example) editing the tags, can't be used without the stylus. Really, the iLiad loses a lot of functionality without the stylus.

No doubt, but I don't think you can work around it with a software change. If you take away the stylus, then I think you'd take away the ability to edit tags. I don't see them making a software change that would somehow implement a keyboard without a touch screen. They would just do without that functionality on the non-touch screen model. IE, the "tags" icon would be grayed out.

Shaggy · 09-19-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by carandol

Only if they upgrade the PDF software so you can search and actually see the contents bookmarks. At the moment the iLiad is a dead loss for using reference books.

Hopefully the new viewer framework (if that is what they're also announcing on Monday) will include bookmarks and searching. One of the main reasons they stated for redesigning the framework was so that they could more easily add this type of functionality as "plugins" for all document types.

carandol · 09-19-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

Hopefully the new viewer framework (if that is what they're also announcing on Monday) will include bookmarks and searching. One of the main reasons they stated for redesigning the framework was so that they could more easily add this type of functionality as "plugins" for all document types.

Oh, I do hope so! (fingers crossed).

I could see the iLiad 1000 catching on with academics if it had decent search facilities. Being able to carry round all your text books, academic journals, and students' essays for marking would be rather useful.

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09-19-2008, 03:52 AM	#16
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I hope that iRex will improve the Mobi Reader app for this device - the one on the iLiad is pretty horrible.

09-19-2008, 04:46 AM	#17
tonyofla Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland. Device: Kindle Oasis	Yes, improving the mobi reader would be my number priority also. After that, something that would make better (well any!) use of the wifi. Some sort of sleep/instant on function would be terrific but I think I read someplace that isn’t possible with the current readers? (forgotten why and not sure I understood it at the time!)

09-19-2008, 10:05 AM	#19
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Very cool. But they'd better have some kind of suspend mode in this model. And an interface that can show more than 6 documents at once.

09-19-2008, 10:18 AM	#20
axel77 Fanatic Posts: 584 Karma: 914 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: iliad	What I read of this I think iRex figured the same, as I was thinking. There is a yet unused "high class market", they should settle on, and leave the "cheap" mass market to amazon and sony to fight over...

09-19-2008, 11:30 AM	#21
-Thomas- Addict Posts: 325 Karma: 1725 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Münster, Germany Device: iRex iLiad v2	Offering a version without touch screen implies a major software change, as the content lister can't be accessed completely without the stylus. So let's hope for some really great improvements on the software side. Hopefully my current iLiad can profit from it too.

09-19-2008, 12:12 PM	#23
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	The buttons at the bottom, which allow (for example) editing the tags, can't be used without the stylus. Really, the iLiad loses a lot of functionality without the stylus. It sure would be nice to see pressure-sensitivity supported, if they're going to stick with Wacom. This would make a great artist's sketch tablet if they did that. They also need a draw app.

09-19-2008, 12:13 PM	#24
Over Wizard Posts: 1,462 Karma: 6061516 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cascais, Portugal Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2", OnePlus 6	So, we have competition between Astak's 9,7" ereader and iRex's 10,2" one? What was the latest price estimation for Astak's?

09-19-2008, 01:33 PM	#25
Mambo Gadget fan Posts: 147 Karma: 3968 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London Device: RM Tablet PC, iLiad, PRS 505, iPod Touch	It's hard to believe that one will be 9.7 the other will be 10.2. I think it will be still a screen produced by PVI, we don't know the actual specs yet. Why would you put effort in developing a 10.2 inch screen when PVI is also developing a 9.7, this doesn't make sense to me, but I can be wrong as well, let's see on monday.