|  08-24-2012, 12:51 PM | #1 | 
| Basculocolpic            Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1 | 
				
				Complete diffusion
			 
			
			What would be a sign that eReaders have arrived completely. That they are so ubiquitous that it is a surprise when people don't have one, like say how you sometimes can't reach certain bureaucrats on nothing but e-mail? They don't want to talk to anyone anymore and if you don't have e-mail, that is your problem, not theirs. For me, I think it would be that electronic gadgets no longer came with printed manuals, but that you would download it, and it would be offered in MOBI and EPUB for your convenience. Last edited by Kumabjorn; 08-24-2012 at 02:03 PM. Reason: Sloppy keyboard manners | 
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|  08-24-2012, 01:18 PM | #2 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+ | 
			
			First, when more best-selling books are released in electronic form than in paper form.  Another would be, to me, when they become standard issue for reading textbooks in grade school.
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|  08-24-2012, 02:53 PM | #3 | 
| Addict            Posts: 386 Karma: 1814548 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle PW2 | 
			
			I guess they will have completely arrived when all in-print books are available electronically, and it becomes unthinkable to publish a book without a digital edition. Rights-holders have digitized most of the still-selling back catalog of books. Most books you are interested in, new or old, are available digitally some how.  E-readers (or general purpose devices that can read ebooks) are cheap, maybe about the cost of a mp3 player/the cost of a portable CD player. Most people have one, even if they rarely read books. | 
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|  08-24-2012, 03:07 PM | #4 | 
| Star Gawker            Posts: 526 Karma: 6944314 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Spruce Grove, AB Canada Device: Kindle Paperwhite | 
			
			I'm with penperhire. When it is unheard of to publish a book without a digital version and it is known the digital version will sell more than the print one. We are getting close. More and more people are reading on various devices. I haven't bought a newspaper or a magazine in ages as I get that online via my tablet. | 
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|  08-24-2012, 03:44 PM | #5 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000 | 
			
			When a kid sees you reading a print book and says: "What's that?" And if you tell them, they roll their eyes, mutter under their breath, and move along.  (Hasn't happened to me yet but the day is coming...) | 
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|  08-24-2012, 03:54 PM | #6 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,146 Karma: 11174187 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Sony 350, K3-3G, K4SO, KPW | 
			
			It's already newsworthy when a Big Name Author (like Steven King - or is it Stephen? I never can remember) decides to *not* release a digital copy
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|  08-24-2012, 04:26 PM | #7 | 
| Seriously?            Posts: 529 Karma: 3347562 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kobo Aura HD, Kobo Mini, iWhatever | 
			
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|  08-24-2012, 04:44 PM | #8 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,717 Karma: 3790058 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NYC Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Sony 650 | 
			
			At least we have come far enough that most everyone knows what an ereader *is* when they see one (even if they call it a Kindle). The first time I brought mine "home to the family" at Christmastime, someone asked me if it was my phone! My daughter is 7 now and I wonder if, at some point in her education, she will be required by the school to have a reader or tablet. eP | 
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|  08-25-2012, 05:49 AM | #9 | 
| temp. out of service            Posts: 2,818 Karma: 24285242 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Duisburg (DE) Device: PB 623 | 
			
			^ this like "what do you mean with you have no $_device?" When vast majority is puzzled in such case. Think TV for nowdays.
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|  08-25-2012, 08:33 AM | #10 | 
| Cynical Old Curmudgeon            Posts: 1,085 Karma: 8495696 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Device: Kobo Mini, Kobo Arc, HTC Desire C | 
			
			They are? In the year I've had my Kobo, I've seen *1* ereader out in the wild in my area (a city of 360k people), and only a single tablet (that 5" Samsung one).
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|  08-25-2012, 01:57 PM | #11 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,933 Karma: 5477576 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle Paperwhite, iPhone, Kobo LC | |
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|  08-26-2012, 01:09 PM | #12 | 
| Star Gawker            Posts: 526 Karma: 6944314 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Spruce Grove, AB Canada Device: Kindle Paperwhite | |
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|  08-26-2012, 01:49 PM | #13 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet | 
			
			I work in a restaurant on the Alaska Highway with about 90% transient business.  3 years ago I had the only ereader in town and saw about 6 in 5 months. 2 years ago at least 20 were owned locally out of a poulation of 400, mostly non-readers (10 by people who liked mine) and I saw approximately the same numer of readers as printed books being read. iPads were showing up but nobody I asked (and I asked everyone) actually read books on them. This year I see far more tablets than readers and one tablet owner told me they read books on it. But... I see far more ebook readers than paper books being read. Online activities are more prevalent and newspapers are stiil the preferred reading of choice though in a restaurant so who can say for sure. Helen | 
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