|  10-24-2011, 09:22 AM | #1 | 
| Are you gonna eat that?            Posts: 1,633 Karma: 23215128 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Phillipsburg, NJ Device: Kindle 3, Nook STG | 
				
				Advertisements in Ebooks-Good Idea?
			 
			
			Many publishing companies are toying with the idea of building advertisements contained within books. The idea is that books can be sold at tremendously reduced costs or given away for free with the intention of making long term gains with making money on ad-clicks or people purchasing products. Would customers accept this? The big advantage with advertisements being displayed within ebooks is the cost to the end user. It would encourage people to pirate less because they could get the official version for free and give the companies important data on downloads and customer demographics. Most users want to do the right thing and get the book via legitimate channels. A fair chunk of users would continue to purchase the ad-free books but the option to give it away with the ads embedded in the book might be a solid option. .http://readerupdates.com/uncategoriz...t-a-good-idea/ pirate less? HA!!! i'd trip over myself running to pirate sites to get ad-free versions. | 
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|  10-24-2011, 09:26 AM | #2 | 
| The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠            Posts: 74,433 Karma: 318076944 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis | 
			
			I can't see adverts in ebooks ever taking off. I don't think the economics are right (the cost per advert would need to be too high to be able to make a significant difference to the ebook price). I think Amazon has found the only way to make money from adverts and ebooks — adverts on the ebook reader. | 
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|  10-24-2011, 09:29 AM | #3 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none | 
			
			I like focusing on what I'm doing. Get the adds out of my reading. There's way too much push in our society right now anyway. I can already see the first blinking text ad on the Kindle. Users wondering why battery life has gone from weeks to a couple of days. | 
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|  10-24-2011, 09:47 AM | #4 | 
| Addict            Posts: 280 Karma: 2064388 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: MN, US Device: Kobo Touch, Asus Eee Pad Slider | 
			
			Absolutely not. Are they kidding? I don't have to listen to an ad half-way through every song I buy. Why should I have to stare at an ad in the middle of the book I'm reading? This won't do anything to discourage piracy. All it will do is create a new piracy market for ad-stripped ebooks. The reason people pirate is because they charge insane prices and impose DRM that make books almost unusable in a variety of ways. And all they'll be doing by putting friggin' ads in books is making it worse, and forcing more people into the piracy game. Charge and license reasonably. Then people will be more inclined to buy stuff. Holy crap, why don't these people get it? Nor will I ever buy an ereading device that forces ads. Again, that's like having ads pop up on my personal computer while I'm offline and trying to write a document. It's insane and invasive. Leave me alone! I am sick of companies thinking that they have the right to shove ads in my face absolutely everywhere I go, with everything I do. | 
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|  10-24-2011, 09:50 AM | #5 | 
| Cynical Old Curmudgeon            Posts: 1,085 Karma: 8495696 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Device: Kobo Mini, Kobo Arc, HTC Desire C | 
			
			Horrible idea. Other than the standard list of books at the beginning from that author that that publisher also puts out, and maybe an order form (pbook)/store link(s) (ebook) at the end for more books from that author & publisher, ads have no place.
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|  10-24-2011, 09:53 AM | #6 | 
| Chocolate Grasshopper ...            Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW | 
			
			No ...
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|  10-24-2011, 10:21 AM | #7 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,101 Karma: 4388403 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Palm>Ebookman>IPaq>Axim>Cybook>Kndl2>IPAD>Kndl3SO>Voyager>Oasis | 
			
			... But use Google's secret for advertising; show relevant ads and enhance the experience. Advertise later books in the series and similar books. I can also see very useful similar product ads. For example, with a book set in some locale carry an ad for trips to that locale. It would really be interesting to see how to actually go to the places named in the book. Or advertise the products used. Of course, the problem will be when tailor-made adverbooks are written. Books just to promote a place or product. I can remember the low quality of some kids books that were solely created to push a brand. To me this is the relationship between real web sites in google results and content farms that have a veneer of content,nbut no real substance. Genuine books with genuine tie-ins would be interesting. Artificial ad-vehicles not so much. | 
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|  10-24-2011, 10:26 AM | #8 | 
| Guru            Posts: 973 Karma: 4269175 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Europe Device: Pocketbook Basic 613 | 
			
			Let's not forget this is digital files we are talking about. So, after obtaining such a copy by whatever means required I'd just open this up in Sigil and remove the offending pages. After having removed the DRM layer, as the case may be, which would really only serve the purpose of letting the user not modify the file.
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|  10-24-2011, 10:34 AM | #9 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,698 Karma: 4748723 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Paperwhite | 
			
			Adverts inside ebooks would probably be the one thing that would turn me into a total ebook pirate. It's a horrible idea.
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|  10-24-2011, 11:02 AM | #10 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,016 Karma: 2838487 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington, DC Device: Ipad, IPhone | 
			
			This was discussed a couple  of times earlier. But then, so was DRM and ebook prices.  Ads have been in books in the past , contrary to myth. If ads can be done in a tasteful, non-intrusive fashion, and if the economics justify it, they will be in ebooks | 
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|  10-24-2011, 11:15 AM | #11 | 
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			I used to love the end ads about other books available from the publisher at the end of the old DAW science fiction novels-back in the old days it was one of the few places you could read blurbs about other related books.
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|  10-24-2011, 11:21 AM | #12 | 
| Spork Connoisseur            Posts: 2,355 Karma: 16780603 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Nook Color | 
			
			No.  Not only no, but heck no.
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|  10-24-2011, 11:26 AM | #13 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none | 
			
			Did you just use the word tasteful with respect to advertising? It will be tasteful until the cognitive behaviorists in the marketing departments start using all their tricks to divert reader's attention away from reading. I can't wait for my first flashing text hot singles advertisement on my Kindle. Great.
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|  10-24-2011, 11:32 AM | #14 | 
| Currently without a title            Posts: 203 Karma: 3209914 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada, Qc Device: Kobo Touch | 
			
			I could live with it if they did ads comicbook style. Throw in a random page of adds every now and then. But I'd expect the price to be significantly lower and  have a non-ads ebook available for realistic prices. But if this happens, I'd hate to see them implement this, say an ebook with ads costs $4.99-9.99, and then justify that an ebook with no ads costs $9.99-19.99 all of a sudden. Unfortunately, companies love this tactic. :/ | 
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|  10-24-2011, 11:44 AM | #15 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,498 Karma: 5199835 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Norway Device: Sony PRS-505, PRS-950 | 
			
			Worst idea ever.  I'd never for a moment consider buying a book containing advertising and if it ever becomes prevalent, I'm straight off to the dark side.
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