Does anyone actually read the Terms and Agreements? - Page 2

Sydney's Mom · 10-11-2011, 04:24 PM

And if you try and hold us liable, you missed the notification date, which was 15 years ago.

beppe · 10-11-2011, 08:26 PM

To add scorn to damage? No way.

emellaich · 10-12-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VicLavigne

Who has the time and energy to spend analyzing each bit of legalese in these highly technical documents?

This.

My answer to the original question is I don't believe that anyone can/does. If your job is to read and understand these things, and if you are a lawyer it will take you hours. The issue is that changing a comma will change the meaning of the document. You can't just read a legal document, you have to analyze it. Think about the various scenarios that might occur that each clause might impact. It would take you a day to analyze many of these. The last time iTunes updated it was 28 pages.

So, its not a case of spending five minutes to skim through a document. Even if you do, you aren't necessarily getting all of the implications. The question is whether you spend a couple of hours analyzing it.

kjk · 10-12-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by emellaich

The last time iTunes updated it was 28 pages.

I just updated last night-the new terms that popped up included a nice summary at the top of the changes from the last Terms, one of which caught my eye for further perusal (the new iTunes Match policy).

Purple Lady · 10-12-2011, 04:06 PM

I normally don't, but after watching a South Park episode that showed what could happen to you if you didn't read the iTunes TOS I was reluctant for a while.

In the episode - HUMANCENTiPAD - you agreed to let Apple perform surgery on you. Rather disgusting surgery.

birdbrainbb · 10-12-2011, 04:15 PM

If I'm really worried about something (like if I need to know a cancellation policy, for instance) I usually skim it to at least get the basic info. But normally I don't read it, no.

astrangerhere · 10-13-2011, 08:20 AM

As a foil to Sydney's Mom, as another attorney, I almost always read them. But I am in corporate law and I know what can be buried in those suckers, hence I read them.
I had a professor in law school who said the difference between lawyers and everyone else was that lawyers would read anything. While its a gross overgeneralization, its still apt to me here.

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10-11-2011, 04:24 PM	#16
Sydney's Mom Wizard Posts: 2,899 Karma: 6995721 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho, on the side of a mountain Device: Kindle Oasis, Fire 3d Gen and 5th Gen and Samsung Tab S	And if you try and hold us liable, you missed the notification date, which was 15 years ago.

10-11-2011, 08:26 PM	#17
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	To add scorn to damage? No way.

10-12-2011, 04:06 PM	#20
Purple Lady Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,698 Karma: 16542228 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Device: Huawei MediaPad M5, LG V30, Boyue T80S, Nexus 7 LTE, K3 3G, Fire HD8	I normally don't, but after watching a South Park episode that showed what could happen to you if you didn't read the iTunes TOS I was reluctant for a while. In the episode - HUMANCENTiPAD - you agreed to let Apple perform surgery on you. Rather disgusting surgery.

10-12-2011, 04:15 PM	#21
birdbrainbb Addict Posts: 287 Karma: 2191035 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Anaheim, CA Device: Kindle Oasis, Kindle Paperwhite 5	If I'm really worried about something (like if I need to know a cancellation policy, for instance) I usually skim it to at least get the basic info. But normally I don't read it, no.

10-13-2011, 08:20 AM	#22
astrangerhere Professor of Law Posts: 3,755 Karma: 68428716 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Device: Kobo Elipsa, Kobo Libra H20, Kobo Aura One, KoboMini	As a foil to Sydney's Mom, as another attorney, I almost always read them. But I am in corporate law and I know what can be buried in those suckers, hence I read them. I had a professor in law school who said the difference between lawyers and everyone else was that lawyers would read anything. While its a gross overgeneralization, its still apt to me here.