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Old 05-31-2016, 07:01 PM   #631
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Especially since it is now on GitHub.

Also, you double-posted.
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How about unlock? We have the key so I think that's a good term to use.
Or pick since it is a set of tools for different formats. Sort of like having a set of skeleton keys in the old days.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:33 PM   #633
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Or pick since it is a set of tools for different formats. Sort of like having a set of skeleton keys in the old days.
But pick implies opening a lock without a key. That exactly not the case here.
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Yep. Maybe "skeleton key?"
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How about "DeDRM"? Nice and unambiguous...
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I once used "alfed" to say this, but not everyone would get the reference.
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To be needlessly pedantic, reverse engineering in any context means examining the finished product and figuring out how it works. Reverse engineering was used to find out how the key was employed, then that knowledge was used to apply the key in other ways.
That is what happened. The algorithm on how to use the key was NOT public knowledge. Unless you are saying that Alf and friends stole the source code from Amazon, then it leaves only reverse engeneering of the finished product to turn it into plain Python.


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Cracking the DRM by making use of the available key, or cracking DRM by cracking the underlying crypto, and thereby not needing to have the key already available.
In this case you cannot have your pie and eat it too. You are calling both methods cracking, when one is inherently different than the other. Why don't you want to call it REMOVE the DRM from the ebook in both cases? One method required a key and the other required cracking (of underlying crypto).
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:07 AM   #638
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I just checked again, and it is still a silly argument.

But I guess I will reiterate what I said before, in the hope that it is both obvious enough and uncontroversial to the point where we could all agree and go get some sleep tonight.

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How about "DeDRM"? Nice and unambiguous...
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How about "DeDRM"? Nice and unambiguous...
I am cool with that. Except ApK won't agree to it now since I agreed. He appears to be on a personal crusade against me in every witch way (pun intended, Maria would probably get it). I am apparently using terms wrong, and to prove it to me he redefines those terms to, guess what? The exact same meaning that was so wrong out of my mouth before. I imagine he could make a good lawyer.
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:40 AM   #640
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How about 'Delock'?

Which has the advantage of not being a word.
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I am cool with that. Except ApK won't agree to it now since I agreed.
Now, now. If you were right, I'd agree with you.

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How about 'Delock'?
Which has the advantage of not being a word.
That has potential.


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How about "DeDRM"? Nice and unambiguous...
I'll disagree with you, since DT is feeling over-persecuted.
Wasn't the whole point to distinguish between two different types of DeDRMing? The type where you are only given more control over stuff you already have access to, and the type that could give you access to stuff you aren't otherwise able to access.
So "DeDRM," along with "cracking," is exactly the ambigous term We were trying to disambiguate.

How about "fair-use-enabling?"
Doesn't exactly roll of the keyboard though.
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How about "fair-use-enabling?"
Doesn't exactly roll of the keyboard though.
DeDRM enables FART.

Fairly Acquired, Reasonable Terms.
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DeDRM enables FART.

Fairly Acquired, Reasonable Terms.
Woooooot!
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Count on the Dutch to class up the place.
The expansion is brilliant, but the acronym..um...stinks.
Could I sell you on Reasonably Aquired Fair Terms?
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