Paperwhite Second Gen: First Impressions - Page 58

sirmaru · 10-08-2013, 01:22 PM

Why is anyone here worried about the RETURN process? As of right now at the Amazon site for the Paperwhite 2013 there are 245 reviews of which 161 are FIVE STARS and only 15 are one star.

The odds are now over TEN TO ONE that you will get a PERFECT unit versus a dud. You are more likely to die from CANCER this year than receive a dud.

allowingtoo · 10-08-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by levante

Some comparations of my PWs: new 2 on the left, old 1 on the right.

Your first picture is the perfect picture of the NEW IMPROVED Paperwhite 2. That is how they really look with the yellow screen. Or the one I have.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...&postcount=830

Barty · 10-08-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What do you have to lose by letting your order go through? It'll cost you nothing to return it if you're not happy with it. Photographs are not good at representing what an eInk screen looks like "for real".

Will amazon pay return shipping if you're unhappy with it? I think they only do that if it's the wrong order or product is defective.

sparklemotion · 10-08-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Barty

Will amazon pay return shipping if you're unhappy with it?

I have always stated defects for my returns on the PW's (pinholes, glowing specks, color hues) however, they will pretty much pay return shipping if you state you are unhappy and give a reason. For instance, if you say it's not as advertised for any reason - screen color, contrast isn't as good as advertised etc. I believe they will pay return shipping without a problem.

Barty · 10-08-2013, 01:47 PM

I've read around 200 pages with my pw2 now and I can definitively say it is worse to read on than the pw1 I had and returned as well as my brother's pw1. On the pw1, I am ok if not too happy reading the built in helvetica. On the pw2, I can't read with any of the built in font. I have to embed Franklin gothic demi condensed, a crazy bold font normally used for headings, to read comfortably.

The light is incredibly convenient and I can see why people love it, but it compromises the screen too much for me. Sigh.

allowingtoo · 10-08-2013, 01:52 PM

I'm going to return my second PW2 and wait and see if there is a fix for the yellow screen.

There are some cheap PW1 on eBay. It will work for what I want it to do until the next one and then I can give it to DH for his reading pleasure.

sparklemotion · 10-08-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barty

I've read around 200 pages with my pw2 now and I can definitively say it is worse to read on than the pw1 I had and returned as well as my brother's pw1. On the pw1, I am ok if not too happy reading the built in helvetica. On the pw2, I can't read with any of the built in font. I have to embed Franklin gothic demi condensed, a crazy bold font normally used for headings, to read comfortably.

The light is incredibly convenient and I can see why people love it, but it compromises the screen too much for me. Sigh.

This was my experience with the PW2 as well.

dax123 · 10-08-2013, 01:53 PM

Thanks guys, I will have do do some deep thinking about it.

JoHunt · 10-08-2013, 02:10 PM

I've just finished reading a book on my PW2 and in my opinion, it's much improved over the PW1. The recent pictures here look nothing at all like my PW2 (I've tried unsuccessfully to photograph it). Mine is very evenly colored with a very faint beige tint. No screen imperfections at all. The helvetica font is nice and dark. Footnotes are now handled incredibly well.

Everyone sees things differently and I'm just sorry that once again this year, MR PW buyers have angst over what real or imagined "imperfections" their PW will have

Personally, I never put much import in internet comments as you never know the agenda of posters (including myself of course). But for me only, this is the best ereader currently available.

levante · 10-08-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by benjamin11900

It looks good. Any pinholes ? I can see on on your PW1 but not on the PW2.

No pinholes, no blobs.

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Originally Posted by benjamin11900

Your screen looks off-center on your PW1.

Blame the photos (is this correct?), the screen is ok for me.

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Originally Posted by sparklemotion

What do you think of the PW2? Are you happy?

Yes, I prefer the little yellowish of PW2 to the little blueish of the PW1.

I have to check it more, reading some books but with the future jailbreak and JBpatch, I hope, I think it will be almost perfect.

sparklemotion · 10-08-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by levante

Yes, I prefer the little yellowish of PW2 to the little blueish of the PW1.

I have to check it more, reading some books, but with the future jailbreak and JBpatch, I hope, I think it will be almost perfect.

That's great. Enjoy it!

levante · 10-08-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sparklemotion

That's great. Enjoy it!

Thanks a lot

strindberg · 10-08-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sirmaru

The odds are now over TEN TO ONE that you will get a PERFECT unit versus a dud. You are more likely to die from CANCER this year than receive a dud.

Haha, where do you live? Within a nuclear power plant? Last time I checked the statistics for my area, a ten percent risk of dying of cancer within the year was not what I saw.

Seriously though, a one in ten chance of a faulty unit is absolutely horrible for a company manufacturing electronics; I doubt even Apple could survive such a huge number of duds.

dordale · 10-08-2013, 02:41 PM

Reporting back after about a week with my new KPW2...I'm very happy with it. I've been reading on it a lot--and haven't noticed any pinholes yet. It does appear to have a little bit of a yellowish hue when reading, but not so much that it bothers me. I don't have a KPW1 to compare to, and maybe that's a good thing

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sirmaru · 10-08-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by strindberg

Haha, where do you live? Within a nuclear power plant? Last time I checked the statistics for my area, a ten percent risk of dying of cancer within the year was not what I saw.

Seriously though, a one in ten chance of a faulty unit is absolutely horrible for a company manufacturing electronics; I doubt even Apple could survive such a huge number of duds.

Of course, I exaggerated the cancer death rate for effect. However, I've done some research on other eInk readers sold at Amazon. Here they are:

Kobo eReader: 54 reviews; 16 five star; 12 one star = 1.3 to 1 for a perfect unit versus a dud per this link: http://www.amazon.com/Kobo-N905-KBO-...owViewpoints=1

Nook eReader: 349 reviews; 193 five star; 45 one star = 4.3 to 1 for a perfect unit versus a dud per this link: http://www.amazon.com/Barnes-Noble-S...owViewpoints=1

Kindle Keyboard: 40,758 reviews; 28,716 five star; 2,121 one star = 13.5 to 1 for a perfect unit versus a dud per this link: http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Special...owViewpoints=1

Kindle Touch: 8,068 reviews; 4,136 five star; 807 one star = 5.1 to 1 for a perfect unit versus a dud per this link: http://www.amazon.com/Kingle-Touch-e...owViewpoints=1

Kindle Paperwhite 2012: 17,300 reviews; 11,100 five star; 818 one star = 13.6 to 1 for a perfect unit versus a dud per this link: http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Paperwh...owViewpoints=1

Kindle Paperwhite 2013: 250 reviews; 164 five star; 15 one star = 10.9 to 1 for a perfect unit versus ad dud per this link: http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Paperwh...owViewpoints=1

As you can see all the Kindles are better than the competition by a wide margin but the best of all at this moment in time is the Kindle Paperwhite 2012 !! The Kindle Keyboard takes second place.

The Kindle Paperwhite 2013 still beats the competition by a wide margin.

10-08-2013, 02:10 PM	#864
JoHunt I am what I am Posts: 6,625 Karma: 62235665 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: iPad3, Voyage	I've just finished reading a book on my PW2 and in my opinion, it's much improved over the PW1. The recent pictures here look nothing at all like my PW2 (I've tried unsuccessfully to photograph it). Mine is very evenly colored with a very faint beige tint. No screen imperfections at all. The helvetica font is nice and dark. Footnotes are now handled incredibly well. Everyone sees things differently and I'm just sorry that once again this year, MR PW buyers have angst over what real or imagined "imperfections" their PW will have Personally, I never put much import in internet comments as you never know the agenda of posters (including myself of course). But for me only, this is the best ereader currently available. Last edited by JoHunt; 10-08-2013 at 02:21 PM.

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10-08-2013, 01:22 PM	#856
sirmaru Wizard Posts: 2,426 Karma: 6561538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014	Why is anyone here worried about the RETURN process? As of right now at the Amazon site for the Paperwhite 2013 there are 245 reviews of which 161 are FIVE STARS and only 15 are one star. The odds are now over TEN TO ONE that you will get a PERFECT unit versus a dud. You are more likely to die from CANCER this year than receive a dud.

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Barty doofus Posts: 2,543 Karma: 13089041 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Voyage	I've read around 200 pages with my pw2 now and I can definitively say it is worse to read on than the pw1 I had and returned as well as my brother's pw1. On the pw1, I am ok if not too happy reading the built in helvetica. On the pw2, I can't read with any of the built in font. I have to embed Franklin gothic demi condensed, a crazy bold font normally used for headings, to read comfortably. The light is incredibly convenient and I can see why people love it, but it compromises the screen too much for me. Sigh.

10-08-2013, 01:52 PM	#861
allowingtoo Bibliophile Posts: 154 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Amazon	I'm going to return my second PW2 and wait and see if there is a fix for the yellow screen. There are some cheap PW1 on eBay. It will work for what I want it to do until the next one and then I can give it to DH for his reading pleasure.

10-08-2013, 01:53 PM	#863
dax123 Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 700052 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Netherlands Device: Silver PRS 600, Red PRS 650, Kindle 3 WiFi (Keyboard), Kindle 4 basic	Thanks guys, I will have do do some deep thinking about it.

10-08-2013, 02:41 PM	#869
dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	Reporting back after about a week with my new KPW2...I'm very happy with it. I've been reading on it a lot--and haven't noticed any pinholes yet. It does appear to have a little bit of a yellowish hue when reading, but not so much that it bothers me. I don't have a KPW1 to compare to, and maybe that's a good thing .

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