One-Click Install Packages for KOReader & Plato

[NiLuJe]

@antonispgs: Use the uninstall package from the KFMon thread (which you can feed to the OCP's install script), and *then* remove the .adds folder after the reboot, yeah .


Or just remove the .adds folder, which will take care of most of it, and wait for the next FW update, which will take care of the rest.

[menneske]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

The concept that not everyone accepts his personal preferences in every single aspect of life as fundamental and immutable laws of the Cosmos is one that particular commenter hasn't managed to grasp yet. You get used to it after a while

I grew up calling them "full stops" too - though it was only when I got older that I realized the reason for the name was likely to differentiate them from the "partial stop" of other punctuation marks like commas and semi-colons.

Well, it IS a matter of being able to communicate, which intends willingness to be clear about your intentions and open to interpreting the intentions of others. And not always can we intuit, what "the other" regards as normal, deviant and obnoxious, and neither can "the other" in regards to me/you.

In Danish "punktum" [from Latin "point, prick, puncture"], the etymology of which is contained in the "punctuation marks".

"Period" derives from Latin also, meaning "full sentence", which refers back to the content following the previous period, indicating a partial stop in the full flow, while the origin of "full stop" is unclear, even if obvious in meaning, like a stop sign at an intersection: [before moving on come to a complete standstill], which also indicates flow, but does not look back, does not reflect; it just waits - to be able to go on!

Even if the purpose of the two is the same [end and beginning] the root cause is not the same thing: "period" lends itself to the quality of content [here a full sentence ends] as well as the author's intentionality [it is not a mistake], while full stop in the flow of thought and meaning solely indicates... well, that you stop. But like a musical score is a document of instrument sound durations, which the composer need not explain in any other way, using a "full stop" could indicate a quality in the "duration" of pauses:

The partial stop or brief pause of elements of connected meaning (comma), the pause of listing (possibly autonomous) elements [semi-colon], the interjection of the forgotten and the expansion of meaning (parentheses and dash) etc. - all speak of relevance of pause length or duration.

While many people are aware of the importance of pauses to music, the importance of the Music of Pauses in writing is a less known and respected notation:

Listen to someone reading from un-rhymed poetry, while following the lines of the poem yourself; most people will ignore the qualities embedded in the use of punctuation and broken and empty lines - to just read the poem however they want, throw stresses around where ever they want, pause when ever they want, and basically ignore the whole point of punctuation:

Tension.

That the text contains a quality, which is not in the words themselves, but in the reader's respect for the pauses - and thus for [how long a pause?] - which is ALSO the writer seen respecting the reader respecting the writer: a communication between people, who will never meet - rather than simply information about a topic delivered TO the reader as the goods being paid for with money or time.

Do you see that possible quality of difference between the period and the full stop? The author's flow vs. MY flow [and why do I have to STOP here?]. The author's text vs. MY text [I damn well bought it!]. Art vs. consumption?

Again, from latin: Punctuations are marks, holes, which CAUSE the sentences - in the same way obstacles in the road give quality to moving, when you think about it afterwards.

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by menneske

Very, VERY off-topic. And yet still apt since your lengthy rant completely missed "the point" of my post. Well done!

[menneske]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

Very, VERY off-topic. And yet still apt since your lengthy rant completely missed "the point" of my post. Well done!

Well, I DO feel we lack an "off topic" smiley, which SMILES.

[menneske]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

Very, VERY off-topic. And yet still apt since your lengthy rant completely missed "the point" of my post. Well done!

btw: WHAT is the reason for people calling lengthy reflection "rants"? Which basically means "talking nonsense".

[Faterson]

Originally Posted by menneske

Do you see that possible quality of difference between the period and the full stop?

No. It's a simple difference between British English and American English, of which many are oblivious (typically Americans).

Arguing about is like screaming that there are no pavements, only sidewalks; no trams, only streetcars, etc.

In my native language, the period/full stop is called the "she-point" (hard to even convey it in English). What now? Am I going to philosophize as to what this name is supposed to signify or suggest?

Nope. It's just a name. Each language has its own names for punctuation marks.

I do agree with Menneske that punctuation is extremely important to convey the rhythm of the language. You recognize good writers by their judicious use of punctuation.

In particular, bad writers use only periods and commas in their writing (incorrectly at that, typically), while good writers make a balanced use of most or all punctuation marks available at our disposal. Only a handful exist, anyway; a very poor arsenal to try and capture the lively rhythm of human speech.

So, punctuation is crucial. But arguing about what individual punctuation marks are called, I find futile.

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by Faterson

But arguing about what individual punctuation marks are called, I find futile.

[antonispgs]

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@antonispgs: Use the uninstall package from the KFMon thread (which you can feed to the OCP's install script), and *then* remove the .adds folder after the reboot, yeah

How do i feed KoboRoot.tgz to the OCP install script called install?

[antonispgs]

Originally Posted by antonispgs

How do i feed KoboRoot.tgz to the OCP install script called install?

Never mind, got it, you have to have the uninstall zip and the ps script downloaded side by side with the kobo plugged in

[johnydon3]

I have a question, do Plato shows real page numbers? i have used Koreader before but i dont like to have position numbers instead of real page number, so before i install Plato i want to know if plato show real page numbers?

[NiLuJe]

I can't speak for Plato, but KOReader supports ePub 3 page maps (or whatever the thing is actually called, but it's what you're talking about) .

[johnydon3]

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

I can't speak for Plato, but KOReader supports ePub 3 page maps (or whatever the thing is actually called, but it's what you're talking about) .

Noob question lol how do I use "epub3"" because as I have mentioned before, I don't like the fact that I load up a 128 pages book for example and then koreader shows like 300 page numbers

[NiLuJe]

You'll have to figure out that one yourself, the ePub spec is a nightmare: https://w3c.github.io/epub-specs/epu...c-nav-pagelist

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by johnydon3

Noob question lol how do I use "epub3"" because as I have mentioned before, I don't like the fact that I load up a 128 pages book for example and then koreader shows like 300 page numbers

The Man Who Died Twice by Richard Osman
432 pages
448 pages

Both of those page number are correct for the pBook versions. That is because they are in different formats.

Your 300 pages is based on how many screens there are. That varies depending on your settings such as the font, font size. hyphenation, line height, margins, footer/header, etc.

The only way to have a consistent page number that ignores all of those things is to read your ePub in RMSDK on you Kobo and no KOReader or as KePub.

[pazos]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The Man Who Died Twice by Richard Osman
432 pages
448 pages

Both of those page number are correct for the pBook versions. That is because they are in different formats.

Your 300 pages is based on how many screens there are. That varies depending on your settings such as the font, font size. hyphenation, line height, margins, footer/header, etc.

The only way to have a consistent page number that ignores all of those things is to read your ePub in RMSDK on you Kobo and no KOReader or as KePub.

I don't have a Kobo since 2017 but IIRC the RMSDK shows the same kind of "real pages" like KOReader does (see attachment)

The only difference is that KOReader follows the spec and thus require a proper epub(3) that features that and Adobe does its nasty magic on all kind of epubs.