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Old 09-30-2011, 12:14 PM   #211
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Is this the plugin that's being referred to:

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Old 09-30-2011, 12:17 PM   #212
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The size is the biggest challenge for me right now. I grew so accustomed to the K3 that this smaller form factor is a bit hard on my large hands. My thumb WILL spill over to the screen if I try to use the same grip I've always done. I find myself holding his one more on the edge so as not to have my thumb too far over. It's a tad uncomfortable so far, and I noticed it last night lying in bed. It's not something that's overly an issue though, I'm sure after a few days of playing around with my hold i'll come up with something that i'm used to.
Im going to have the same problem. My thumb already spills over a bit on the k3 screen. In fact, if the k3 had IR touch, I could be setting it off constantly.
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:20 PM   #213
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Is this the plugin that's being referred to:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118635
Yes. Scroll down to the Modify Kindle Settings such as Margins and Fonts section on that page.

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Old 09-30-2011, 12:25 PM   #214
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I found a cover for the K4 at Amazon, and it is in stock:

Marware-Eco-Vue-Kindle-Touch-Cover

It is a bit pricey at $34.99 but that is less than Amazon's cover, and the Amazon cover won't be available until November 15. The one caveat is this cover will also fit the K4 Touch so it will be a tad big on the K4 NT.

Oh, and for those of you asking about the K4 SO option: This morning I had a $5 off on $10 Amazon purchase offer waiting for me on my K4. I took the offer and saved $5 when I purchased this cover.

I estimate I've saved enough $$$ through special offers I've received via the K3 since I bought it 3 months ago to easily pay for the K4 I just bought. It is definitely worth putting up with a few subtle ads to get the savings on items I would have purchased anyway.

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Old 09-30-2011, 01:03 PM   #215
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I've been watching some YouTube videos of reviews on the new Kindle. It's actually pretty funny cause most of these guys are reviewing right out of the box without having even tried it first. One guy had a difficult time turning it on cause he thought he had to "slide to power on" like the old version where it's actually just a button press now. After that he had to enter his password and had no idea how to bring up the keyboard. C'mon man, at least use it a bit before you create a video review of it.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:06 PM   #216
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WOW.. I am blown away by the K4.

Here is my quick take (even though you didn't ask for it!)

I wasn't sure about the new style and color. IMHO, The pictures made it look like the sony PRS300. In person i find it fantastic. The images and pictures do not do it justice. You should really hold it in your hands before you pass judgment on the color or case design.

Its got a very subtle 'kindle' on the top bezel and a not-to-advertisementy 'Amazon' on the back.

It has a very nice feel in the hands. The back has a nice 'rubbery' feel to it that the front bezel and sides don't. Its not as rubbery as some of the newer blackberry's... but it has a very 'soft' feeling in the hand.

It's almost too small... but a case will make easier to hold (IMHO again).

The page buttons have a very nice feel to them. They don't click but they are not 'soft'. Amazon nailed the 'tactile' feel i wanted. (I hated the button click on the K2). The menu buttons are small but still easy to get to.

The screen is different then the K3. Even my 11 year old non-techie daughter noticed how different it was then her 4 month old K3. It 'seems' to have better contrast and a brighter (less grey) screen.

HOWEVER! It does have a thin black bezel/inlay around the screen (you can see it in this picture). Adding a black boarder to the screen can give the appearance of better contrast. My daughter swears its better then her K3, I think its better then her K3 (and WAY better then my K2).

The speed increase over the K3 is noticeable.

As for the keyboard... I found it very easy to type in my wifi password. Thats probably the last time i'll use it .

The only fault i can find, and its really not a fault, is that it might be tooo thin and light . Its just my opinion... but a case will make it fit in the hands better.

Overall its an amazing upgrade (just ask my daughter.. according to her, the K3 is sooooo outdated).

It will be interesting to hear what people think of the touch...

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Old 09-30-2011, 01:16 PM   #217
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WOW.. I am blown away by the K4.



HOWEVER! It does have a thin black bezel/inlay around the screen (you can see it in this picture). Adding a black boarder to the screen can give the appearance of better contrast. My daughter swears its better then her K3, I think its better then her K3 (and WAY better then my K2).
Nice review, sounds like you love it. This "black bezel" thing is a bit of an optical illusion. The bezel is actually the same grey/metallic colour of the rest of the Kindle, however when you look at it straight on it looks black. It you go ahead and tilt your Kindle at various angles and look at the bezel you'll see the colour is the same as the surrounding material. This is also why the Kindle appears different based on how it's photographed.

It does seem to make for a better reading experience, and I'm sure Amazon did it for that very reason. Very cool effect.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:25 PM   #218
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I also have the K3 3g/WIFI without the offers. I have ordered the 3G touch SO. I have 30 days, so I thought I would try it. I should know immediately if I will be able to tolerate it. If I can't, I will return it and get the touch without SO.
Just FYI, since I initially ordered the Touch 3G to be able to check email anywhere: there is no free web browsing on the Touch 3G, except for Wikipedia and to shop at Amazon. There's a separate thread with an email from Amazon confirming it.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:27 PM   #219
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Gmail will work! If you can send a book to it and try to download it. I could never do that unless I used sqweezer because of the no new window support.
Sorry, tried this but got a message saying the popup was blocked. I guess that means it won't work. BTW, GMail in the Kindle browser sucks! You would think Google would have designed the web page for a mobile device, but no!
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:29 PM   #220
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Sorry, tried this but got a message saying the popup was blocked. I guess that means it won't work. BTW, GMail in the Kindle browser sucks! You would think Google would have designed the web page for a mobile device, but no!
Ah well I had hope they had fixed it.

Thanks for trying though!
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:35 PM   #221
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How do you play games without the keyboard?
It's for reading! r-e-a-d-i-n-g

Buy an iPad for games. The two complement each other perfectly.

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Old 09-30-2011, 02:21 PM   #222
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Buy an iPad for games. The two complement each other perfectly.
according to this review, the games and apps are disabled on the nontouch:

http://blogkindle.com/2011/09/kindle-4-review/

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Old 09-30-2011, 03:10 PM   #224
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Just FYI, since I initially ordered the Touch 3G to be able to check email anywhere: there is no free web browsing on the Touch 3G, except for Wikipedia and to shop at Amazon. There's a separate thread with an email from Amazon confirming it.
Can you provide a link to this? I find it hard to believe that Amazon wouldn't somehow let people know this. I can't find anything in the description. In the comparison chart, it just says web: experimental browser.

Edit: I found a thread on kindleboards. I didn't see it on my first read-through, but the Kindle Touch 3G page does say this:

WebKit-Based Browser
Kindle Touch 3G's experimental web browser is based on WebKit. It's easy to find the information you're looking for right from your Kindle Touch 3G. Experimental web browsing is available via Wi-Fi.

Here's the thread on kindleboards:
http://www.kindleboards.com/index.ph...c,85857.0.html

Edited once more to add this from the product page:

A single charge lasts up to two months with wireless off based upon a half-hour of daily reading time. Keep wireless always on and it lasts for up to 3 weeks. Battery life will vary based on wireless usage, such as shopping the Kindle Store, downloading content, and web browsing (browsing available only in Wi-Fi mode).

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Old 09-30-2011, 03:10 PM   #225
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I'm convinced the e-ink screen fades with time, and that's what's causing it to look inferior on the Kindle 3.

I'm fairly certain the new K4 screen is what my K3 looked like when it was brand new.
I disagree, at least in my personal experience. I've had a K3 since launch and it is just as "crisp" in contrast as it was out of the box. In fact, I just recently purchased another K3 and my original has a slight edge on contrast over the new one.
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