Mike Cane changes his opinion and becomes a Sony Reader fan

NatCh · 10-26-2006, 12:31 PM

Mike Cane has updated his original review of the Sony Reader -- starting off with an outright retraction: 'I am now formally retracting that first sentence: "Let’s get this out of the way first: you do not want to buy it."'

3 of 4 parts of the review are posted so far:

http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/1...r-part-1-of-4/
http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/1...r-part-2-of-4/
http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/1...r-part-3-of-4/

It's not up yet, but logic suggests that this is where the fourth part just might be when it does show up:
http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/1...r-part-4-of-4/

So far, it seems to be a pretty thorough look-see.

tcv · 10-26-2006, 02:31 PM

Thanks for finding that. I was quite intrigued by his RSS comments. Here's the main issue I have with that. I often times follow the links in the RSS feeds. I can't do that on a PDF on the Reader. So, I think this really doesn't do much for me.

I like his thinking, though. :-)

WilliamG · 10-26-2006, 02:37 PM

Oooh. I want to read part 4.

ultim8fury · 10-26-2006, 02:51 PM

I still think the guy is a <censored> but at least he's spent some more time with the Reader and can actually give a more in-depth and realistic review.

NatCh · 10-26-2006, 02:53 PM

I probably should add a link to this pre-comment of Mike's on his amplified Reader review (mostly 'cause I found it funny):

http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/i-reader/

Here's the main overthread, for completeness' sake:
http://mikecane.wordpress.com/tag/sony-reader/

He does finaly answer the question of whether you can scan text from the Reader's screen with one of those line-scanner pen thingies. Too bad it didn't work, that would have been nice for capturing quotations.

tcv · 10-26-2006, 02:58 PM

I don't dislike him, but I honestly became fed up with a flamewar he participated in on the Writing On Your Palm list. It really made me choose to leave that group.

Jake · 10-26-2006, 03:03 PM

His experience with the flashing page transitions is so similar to mine. Until I actually used the Reader I thought I could never stand the page turns. After few minutes it truly became a non-issue. The transitions are quite speedy actually (especially for non-PDF material) and I don't notice them any more than I would turning a page in a paper book. E-ink seems to be a technology that needs to be experienced directly. Similar to the ipod and cell phone, the more I use my Reader the more I wonder how I did without it!

Bob Russell · 10-26-2006, 03:04 PM

But someone in the iLiad forum said you can scan the e-ink screen, so I wouldn't be surprised if a regular flat bed scanner works.

NatCh · 10-26-2006, 03:13 PM

True, we're not totally out in the cold on that.

radleyp · 10-26-2006, 03:31 PM

Is there anything here that has not been pointed to by others? None of this, in any case, deals with the real problem, which is: what texts will be available? As for E-ink, it should be better than its predecessors and it is, but that does not mean that we should all stop reading on whatever device it is we use now.

NatCh · 10-26-2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radleyp

As for E-ink, it should be better than its predecessors and it is, but that does not mean that we should all stop reading on whatever device it is we use now.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that you should. I'm certainly not.

Nightwing · 10-26-2006, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Russell

But someone in the iLiad forum said you can scan the e-ink screen, so I wouldn't be surprised if a regular flat bed scanner works.

Cant see why not... Simply most scanner are camera at heart.

This pen scanner dont have a lot of Depth of Field so to speak. Mostly contact if my memory serves me right.

yvanleterrible · 10-26-2006, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

I don't think anyone is suggesting that you should. I'm certainly not.

Good I'll just soldier on with my p-readers.

NatCh · 10-26-2006, 05:22 PM

Whatever works best for you, yvanleterrible, that's the important bit.

BuddyBoy · 10-26-2006, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightwing

Cant see why not... Simply most scanner are camera at heart.

This pen scanner dont have a lot of Depth of Field so to speak. Mostly contact if my memory serves me right.

I have a one of those nice little flatbed scanners designed for 4X6 phots and tried scanning my ebook. The sony logo came out fine but the recessed page was out of focus. It got wose as you moved down the page because the joystick pushed that end of the reader further away from the glass.

Maybe a better quality scanner has more depth of field.

I think digital photos are going to be the best way to "scan" these pages for me.

10-26-2006, 12:31 PM	#1
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Mike Cane changes his opinion and becomes a Sony Reader fan Mike Cane has updated his original review of the Sony Reader -- starting off with an outright retraction: 'I am now formally retracting* that first sentence: "Let’s get this out of the way first: you do not want to buy it."'* 3 of 4 parts of the review are posted so far: http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/1...r-part-1-of-4/ http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/1...r-part-2-of-4/ http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/1...r-part-3-of-4/ It's not up yet, but logic suggests that this is where the fourth part just might be when it does show up: http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/1...r-part-4-of-4/ So far, it seems to be a pretty thorough look-see. Last edited by NatCh; 10-27-2006 at 10:25 AM. Reason: fixing the link to part 4

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10-26-2006, 02:31 PM	#2
tcv Addict Posts: 330 Karma: 596 Join Date: Oct 2006	Thanks for finding that. I was quite intrigued by his RSS comments. Here's the main issue I have with that. I often times follow the links in the RSS feeds. I can't do that on a PDF on the Reader. So, I think this really doesn't do much for me. I like his thinking, though. :-)

10-26-2006, 02:37 PM	#3
WilliamG Addict Posts: 307 Karma: 60998 Join Date: Sep 2006	Oooh. I want to read part 4.

10-26-2006, 02:51 PM	#4
ultim8fury Addict Posts: 219 Karma: 368 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Device: PRS500, Looking at 700	I still think the guy is a <censored> but at least he's spent some more time with the Reader and can actually give a more in-depth and realistic review.

10-26-2006, 02:53 PM	#5
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I probably should add a link to this pre-comment of Mike's on his amplified Reader review (mostly 'cause I found it funny): http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/i-reader/ Here's the main overthread, for completeness' sake: http://mikecane.wordpress.com/tag/sony-reader/ He does finaly answer the question of whether you can scan text from the Reader's screen with one of those line-scanner pen thingies. Too bad it didn't work, that would have been nice for capturing quotations.

10-26-2006, 02:58 PM	#6
tcv Addict Posts: 330 Karma: 596 Join Date: Oct 2006	I don't dislike him, but I honestly became fed up with a flamewar he participated in on the Writing On Your Palm list. It really made me choose to leave that group.

10-26-2006, 03:03 PM	#7
Jake Renaissance Man Posts: 45 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Device: Sony Reader	His experience with the flashing page transitions is so similar to mine. Until I actually used the Reader I thought I could never stand the page turns. After few minutes it truly became a non-issue. The transitions are quite speedy actually (especially for non-PDF material) and I don't notice them any more than I would turning a page in a paper book. E-ink seems to be a technology that needs to be experienced directly. Similar to the ipod and cell phone, the more I use my Reader the more I wonder how I did without it!

10-26-2006, 03:04 PM	#8
Bob Russell Recovering Gadget Addict Posts: 5,381 Karma: 676161 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Device: iPad	But someone in the iLiad forum said you can scan the e-ink screen, so I wouldn't be surprised if a regular flat bed scanner works.

10-26-2006, 03:13 PM	#9
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	True, we're not totally out in the cold on that.

10-26-2006, 03:31 PM	#10
radleyp Evangelist Posts: 499 Karma: 20623 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Salem & NYC, NY Device: Kindle Global, iphone4, ipad	Is there anything here that has not been pointed to by others? None of this, in any case, deals with the real problem, which is: what texts will be available? As for E-ink, it should be better than its predecessors and it is, but that does not mean that we should all stop reading on whatever device it is we use now.

10-26-2006, 05:22 PM	#14
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Whatever works best for you, yvanleterrible, that's the important bit.

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