Sharing books by email

darrenma · 10-02-2022, 11:28 AM

I have used Calibre to download The Economist and then send to my kindle for a long time. in previous version, the email subject is:E-book: The Economist, and the attachment file name is The Economist - calibre.mobi,which is easy for me when ever I want to share with my friends.
But The latest three versions changed the way, the email subject changed to a random string which is difficult to know what email is about.
can it change back to previous design? or is it possible to customlize the function in the tweaks of preference?

theducks · 10-02-2022, 12:11 PM

There are many posts on what Amazon broke (I'm to lazy to link them right now). This is NOT Calibres fault.

darrenma · 10-02-2022, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by theducks

There are many posts on what Amazon broke (I'm to lazy to link them right now). This is NOT Calibres fault.

I am not talking about Amazon's not reading the metadata.

I am saying the way calibre sending books by email, as I am also using them in the email sometimes, but now the subject is a random string so unless you open the mail you don't know what is about by the subject.

chaley · 10-02-2022, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by darrenma

I have used Calibre to download The Economist and then send to my kindle for a long time. in previous version, the email subject is:E-book: The Economist, and the attachment file name is The Economist - calibre.mobi,which is easy for me when ever I want to share with my friends.
But The latest three versions changed the way, the email subject changed to a random string which is difficult to know what email is about.
can it change back to previous design? or is it possible to customlize the function in the tweaks of preference?

This was fixed in calibre 6.6.1 (actually 6.6.0). Are you running that version?

EDIT: The fix changed the file name. The subject is still numbers.

darrenma · 10-02-2022, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chaley

This was fixed in calibre 6.6.1 (actually 6.6.0). Are you running that version?

EDIT: The fix changed the file name. The subject is still numbers.

I am running 6.4 in which the email subject is the ebook title while sharing books by email

kovidgoyal · 10-02-2022, 10:19 PM

Send to a non kindle address and you will get a subject that is not a random string.

darrenma · 10-03-2022, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Send to a non kindle address and you will get a subject that is not a random string.

great!

DeepVoid · 01-28-2023, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Send to a non kindle address and you will get a subject that is not a random string.

How to use a non kindle email address for a kindle device?

DNSB · 01-28-2023, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepVoid

How to use a non kindle email address for a kindle device?

You need to set up an email relay using GMX, Outlook Web, whatever to send the email rather than directly from calibre. This will also help to avoid issues where Amazon will not accept calibre's SMTP server since that your computer's external IP address is unlikely to be in their allowed listing.

theducks · 01-28-2023, 12:16 PM

??? I thought the only e-mail way into a Kindle is using Amazon, so they can forward it in their protocol via whispernet or TCP/IP

Do Kindles run an e-mail client? How do you set it to use a different POP service?

OP
An alternate (very clunky) is to use the 'experimental' browser built in to older K's to access the Calibre Content server (If on Local Network, you do not need port forwarding)

Quoth · 01-28-2023, 03:34 PM

Yes, you "allow list" your sending address on your Amazon Device page for a Kindle, where you can copy or edit the Kindle destination address.

There is no email on the Kindle. It's the famed "Whispernet" delivery only from Amazon direct on WiFi or mobile/cell depending on model.

If you normally use a desktop email client that has SMTP settings (outgoing or sending server) then that's what you use in Calibre.

You can test send an epub from the desktop email

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Here is ficticious hosting someone uses. But if you have email with your ISP, using their SMTP, it goes in the boxes.

The GMX & Outlook are only convenience. As indeed is the built-in email sending.

You are really sending from the ISP or mail provider or hosting company SMTP.

Many ISPs in UK and Ireland will block a personal SMTP, like is built into Calibre. So really for sending email to anything (rather than web mail) you need an SMTP on the internet that you hyave an account with. It can gmx or outlook, or your ISP or a hosting package.

I've tested "Send to Kindle" email, but not the newer web interface which allows bigger files. Your ISP or hosting may have a smaller SMTP limit than Amazon anyway.

I prefer to do my own conversions, use USB cable and keep my content private.
One could use the Calibre Share by Email to send PD (or your own created content) to friends, family or beta readers, but I prefer a specific written email with an attachment.

Other people could add your sending email address to their kindle, and then you can email PD ebooks to someone that has no PC or can't work attachments and USB.

One advantage of Kindle over all others, someone could have 3G/4G kindle you set up, and no Internet and you buy their books (on account you created for them) and also send them PD books.

kovidgoyal · 01-28-2023, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepVoid

How to use a non kindle email address for a kindle device?

Since you cant see the subject of emails sent to amazon, as those emails are not forwarded to your device the subject on emails sent to kindle addresses is irrelevant.

Quoth · 01-29-2023, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Since you cant see the subject of emails sent to amazon, as those emails are not forwarded to your device the subject on emails sent to kindle addresses is irrelevant.

Indeed, the Kindle only gets the converted attachment from Amazon. The body text is also lost.

10-02-2022, 11:28 AM	#1
darrenma Member Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2021 Device: kindle	Sharing books by email I have used Calibre to download The Economist and then send to my kindle for a long time. in previous version, the email subject is:E-book: The Economist, and the attachment file name is The Economist - calibre.mobi,which is easy for me when ever I want to share with my friends. But The latest three versions changed the way, the email subject changed to a random string which is difficult to know what email is about. can it change back to previous design? or is it possible to customlize the function in the tweaks of preference?

01-28-2023, 03:34 PM	#11
Quoth Still reading Posts: 14,990 Karma: 111111255 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper	Yes, you "allow list" your sending address on your Amazon Device page for a Kindle, where you can copy or edit the Kindle destination address. There is no email on the Kindle. It's the famed "Whispernet" delivery only from Amazon direct on WiFi or mobile/cell depending on model. If you normally use a desktop email client that has SMTP settings (outgoing or sending server) then that's what you use in Calibre. You can test send an epub from the desktop email Here is ficticious hosting someone uses. But if you have email with your ISP, using their SMTP, it goes in the boxes. The GMX & Outlook are only convenience. As indeed is the built-in email sending. You are really sending from the ISP or mail provider or hosting company SMTP. Many ISPs in UK and Ireland will block a personal SMTP, like is built into Calibre. So really for sending email to anything (rather than web mail) you need an SMTP on the internet that you hyave an account with. It can gmx or outlook, or your ISP or a hosting package. I've tested "Send to Kindle" email, but not the newer web interface which allows bigger files. Your ISP or hosting may have a smaller SMTP limit than Amazon anyway. I prefer to do my own conversions, use USB cable and keep my content private. One could use the Calibre Share by Email to send PD (or your own created content) to friends, family or beta readers, but I prefer a specific written email with an attachment. Other people could add your sending email address to their kindle, and then you can email PD ebooks to someone that has no PC or can't work attachments and USB. One advantage of Kindle over all others, someone could have 3G/4G kindle you set up, and no Internet and you buy their books (on account you created for them) and also send them PD books. Last edited by Quoth; 01-28-2023 at 03:43 PM.

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10-02-2022, 12:11 PM	#2
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,251 Karma: 61360164 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	There are many posts on what Amazon broke (I'm to lazy to link them right now). This is NOT Calibres fault.

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kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,604 Karma: 28548974 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Send to a non kindle address and you will get a subject that is not a random string.

01-28-2023, 12:16 PM	#10
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,251 Karma: 61360164 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	??? I thought the only e-mail way into a Kindle is using Amazon, so they can forward it in their protocol via whispernet or TCP/IP Do Kindles run an e-mail client? How do you set it to use a different POP service? OP An alternate (very clunky) is to use the 'experimental' browser built in to older K's to access the Calibre Content server (If on Local Network, you do not need port forwarding)

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