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Post kindle users, what are you using?
I switched to OLED android since the kindle was difficult to customize and the reader (even after jail breaking) was lacking. It made sense in 2009, but now battery life on phones is much bettter and the OLEDs get darker than eink at night. What devices do you use now and what is the most important factor for you? I choose the highest PPI OLED screen phones, use the volume buttons and shrink the font on the screen. This is a comparison of how much text I can fit versus the kindle, I read chapters in a few button clicks (about 13 on the kindle versus 1 on the phone). https://ibb.co/D8nT2gY
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Still eink, since 2011. No wish to switch to something else. I can't read small fonts and fitting the maximum amount of text on a screen isn't a priority for me, so no phones for book reading. Give me a 7'' eink screen and I'm content.
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cacoethes scribendi
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There was a time when I set my screens to tiny fonts, and I coded using dense code structure with minimal white space ... but those days are long gone. Now, give me a 7" to 8" e-ink screen for reading (and a 27" screen for coding!
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I use a big iPad pro, mostly because I can read it without reading glasses and can set the fonts and colors the way I like.
Preach on about the 27 inch monitor! |
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Whatever tablet or phone I have on hand.
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All my 'main' readers (started in 2010, 5" Astak), have been e-ink. The display quality has just gotten better.
Backlit is hard on my eye (now singular ![]() I find my latest, the Aura2, with its edge light, to be very easy to read on for longer periods (I still would like to ditch touch navigation. Big hands and no depth perception makes tapping precise places very hard. ) |
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Your needs would seem to me to be rare. I can't believe you can read text that small comfortably, but different strokes.
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What you decided to switch to, is what I decided to switch away from.
To each, his or her own. |
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I could read comfortably the text shown on the e-ink screen on the right in the OP's photo but the text on the device on the left looks microscopic. 🔬
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I started way back with PDAs which were limited by display size (but color). Moved to E Ink for bigger display size for a few years but got sick of the poor display technology and moved to the tablets that had come along in the meantime.
Regarding readability of text size one can read considerably smaller text on LCD and OLED displays compared to E Ink because of their very much higher contrast ratios. Typically a LCD phone or tablet display will have a contrast ratio around 100 to 200 times that of E Ink displays and the contrast ratio of AMOLED, for example, is effectively infinite. Contrast ratio is similar to dynamic range, so the ability to differentiate, for example, black against a white background. This is one reason why, for example, E Ink is poor at grey scale too and, as can be seen from many posts in these forums, also why people find fonts in ebooks often not dense or distinctive enough (that is a problem I have observed with E Ink but have never found it so with LCD or AMOLED). Personally, for reading, I see a very noticeable increase in readability of text for LCD over E Ink, but not so much as between LCD and AMOLED - I have never been able to justify the increased cost of AMOLED just for reading. For high quality video (getting off topic, and something E Ink is incompetent at, but to demonstrate an effect of increased contrast ratio) AMOLED is noticeably better than LCD because of AMOLED's higher contrast ratio. Moving that into TVs, LCD TVs have high contrast ratios (typically higher than a LCD computer monitor, so that is one reason why movies look better on a TV than a monitor) and xOLEDs much higher again and are noticeably better than LCD. |
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The iPhone SE example lost quotation indents and spaces. The eInk device looks more like a paper book. There's no question which I would rather use (especially at the tiny font setting on the iPhone). |
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Which really isn't an advantage for me. I like reasonably sized fonts, neither too big nor too little At one time I read that the ideal column length is 35 characters. That may (or may not) be true, but I do know that when I've adjusted my fonts to taste, the line length usually ends up being about 40 characters. And that's where I'm comfortable.
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![]() If you find inferior contrast ratio displays meet your need because you use "reasonably sized fonts" ![]() Just like many are happy watching movies on LCD TVs but others have reasons to appreciate the better result from OLEDs (that result contributed to by their better contrast ratio). For myself I am happy with LCD TV panels (the better ones) for movies but when I see people post in a forum somewhere the fact that why movies are better presented on xOLED TV panels I don't feel any pressing need to point out that OLED "really isn't an advantage for me" as that has nothing to do with the fact claimed, but would rather be a statement seeking to give myself comfort for my inferior choice. Last edited by AnotherCat; 09-14-2019 at 08:33 PM. |
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