calibre and Moon+

GuyInDogSuit · 05-21-2016, 09:22 PM

So I read that epub format has the best metadata retention, so I updated all my covers and metadata and converted to epub.

First, when it came to transferring my books, it didn't work through calibre. I have an NVIDIA Shield Tablet with Android Marshmallow 6.0.1. What this means is that I have to plug it in, manually turn on file transfers via the notification, and drag and drop my books to the device/SD card. Calibre's transfer just sits at 0% forever, and nothing gets transferred. Is this because it's Marshmallow?

Second, some covers and metadata are still missing. Shouldn't they be embedded in the epub files?

Tikker · 05-21-2016, 10:11 PM

well, depends on how you do things, I guess

I use the web/content server on calibre, I basically treat it like a webpage, so that I can just access it from anywhere that has internet

I always just download books via chrome, then use Moon+ to open the file

never had an issue that way

barryem · 05-22-2016, 01:30 PM

I use Moon+ on my phone and I have all my books on my Lan, actually on my laptop. I can easily access them from Moon+ or using ES File Explorer. I use Calibre for conversions but not as a library program but that's okay. Moon+ can access my lan's ebook library directly.

I also upload most of the books I'm likely to read in the near future to Dropbox and I can access those directly from Moon+ as well. It handles connecting to Dropbox or Google Drive very gracefully, making it even easier than accessing my Lan.

Barry

GuyInDogSuit · 05-25-2016, 07:21 PM

I'm thinking of uploading my library to Dropbox, since I don't really use it for anything else. Good tips.

lazorbeam · 06-05-2016, 12:12 AM

Little late to the game, but after you add your library to Dropbox, you may find you'd like an app to help you browse your library and find the right book. AFAIK, when connecting to Dropbox through Moon+ (and most other Android readers), you have to browse it like a regular computer folder.

If you prefer to browse by title, genre, tag, etc. so you can use apps like:
CalibreBox (my fave), CalibreCloud, CalibreCompanion

barryem · 06-06-2016, 04:33 PM

I like accessing it by folder. On my lan I have a folder for each author and all that author's books in that folder. On Dropbox I just have all the books together in a folder called Ebooks.

I rarely think about books in terms of genre. i guess that's because of my age. I'm 75 and when I was young and browsing bookstores genre was never in evidence. Bookstores didn't use them and neither did readers.

Every book store had 3 sections for books and of course others for magazines, etc. They had a section for Fiction, one for Non-Fiction and a section for Science Fiction. That was before Star Wars, which popularized science fiction and in those days decent people didn't read science fiction. Everybody knew that. Only people like me did. So bookstores kept them in their own section hidden in the back of the store, often behind it's own wall. If they also had porn they kept the science fiction with it. And yes, this is the way all bookstores were in those days. I may be senile but this I know.

Fantasy, was of couse, kept with fiction. So were mysteries. These, really all fiction of all types except science fiction, were listed together by author. Genre was a French word and we spoke English.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. A few stores, not most, also had a shelf for westerns but it was always readily available, not hidden from decent people. Westerns were good, just not very good.

Some of the books I read fit in some genre. I have no problem with that. I still read an SF book now and then and an occasional western. I've read a couple of romance novels to see what they were like. I do like historical novels if they're historical novels and not romances. But most of my books aren't genre books. Most are just good books.

Genre began as a marketing tool; a way to get you to buy more books. Obviously you, and most everyone, have bought into that and I'm sure the publishers and book sellers love you for that and have taken full advantage. I suspect they have a saying "there's a genre-lover born every minute".

Barry

lazorbeam · 06-07-2016, 10:38 PM

Bookstores have definitely changed and we probably do over-categorize everything. To be honest, I don't generally search by genre too often when importing but I have a terrible time remembering author names so importing based on that can get a bit tedious. I do like the option to type in part of a title or series name and find what I'm looking for.

05-21-2016, 09:22 PM	#1
GuyInDogSuit Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2016 Device: Nvidia Shield Tablet	calibre and Moon+ So I read that epub format has the best metadata retention, so I updated all my covers and metadata and converted to epub. First, when it came to transferring my books, it didn't work through calibre. I have an NVIDIA Shield Tablet with Android Marshmallow 6.0.1. What this means is that I have to plug it in, manually turn on file transfers via the notification, and drag and drop my books to the device/SD card. Calibre's transfer just sits at 0% forever, and nothing gets transferred. Is this because it's Marshmallow? Second, some covers and metadata are still missing. Shouldn't they be embedded in the epub files?

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05-21-2016, 10:11 PM	#2
Tikker Zealot Posts: 117 Karma: 2329890 Join Date: Jul 2014 Device: Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4, Galaxy S7, Kobo Aura	well, depends on how you do things, I guess I use the web/content server on calibre, I basically treat it like a webpage, so that I can just access it from anywhere that has internet I always just download books via chrome, then use Moon+ to open the file never had an issue that way

05-22-2016, 01:30 PM	#3
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	I use Moon+ on my phone and I have all my books on my Lan, actually on my laptop. I can easily access them from Moon+ or using ES File Explorer. I use Calibre for conversions but not as a library program but that's okay. Moon+ can access my lan's ebook library directly. I also upload most of the books I'm likely to read in the near future to Dropbox and I can access those directly from Moon+ as well. It handles connecting to Dropbox or Google Drive very gracefully, making it even easier than accessing my Lan. Barry

05-25-2016, 07:21 PM	#4
GuyInDogSuit Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2016 Device: Nvidia Shield Tablet	I'm thinking of uploading my library to Dropbox, since I don't really use it for anything else. Good tips.

06-05-2016, 12:12 AM	#5
lazorbeam Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2014 Device: iPhone; Fire HD	Little late to the game, but after you add your library to Dropbox, you may find you'd like an app to help you browse your library and find the right book. AFAIK, when connecting to Dropbox through Moon+ (and most other Android readers), you have to browse it like a regular computer folder. If you prefer to browse by title, genre, tag, etc. so you can use apps like: CalibreBox (my fave), CalibreCloud, CalibreCompanion

06-06-2016, 04:33 PM	#6
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	I like accessing it by folder. On my lan I have a folder for each author and all that author's books in that folder. On Dropbox I just have all the books together in a folder called Ebooks. I rarely think about books in terms of genre. i guess that's because of my age. I'm 75 and when I was young and browsing bookstores genre was never in evidence. Bookstores didn't use them and neither did readers. Every book store had 3 sections for books and of course others for magazines, etc. They had a section for Fiction, one for Non-Fiction and a section for Science Fiction. That was before Star Wars, which popularized science fiction and in those days decent people didn't read science fiction. Everybody knew that. Only people like me did. So bookstores kept them in their own section hidden in the back of the store, often behind it's own wall. If they also had porn they kept the science fiction with it. And yes, this is the way all bookstores were in those days. I may be senile but this I know. Fantasy, was of couse, kept with fiction. So were mysteries. These, really all fiction of all types except science fiction, were listed together by author. Genre was a French word and we spoke English. Oh yeah, I almost forgot. A few stores, not most, also had a shelf for westerns but it was always readily available, not hidden from decent people. Westerns were good, just not very good. Some of the books I read fit in some genre. I have no problem with that. I still read an SF book now and then and an occasional western. I've read a couple of romance novels to see what they were like. I do like historical novels if they're historical novels and not romances. But most of my books aren't genre books. Most are just good books. Genre began as a marketing tool; a way to get you to buy more books. Obviously you, and most everyone, have bought into that and I'm sure the publishers and book sellers love you for that and have taken full advantage. I suspect they have a saying "there's a genre-lover born every minute". Barry

06-07-2016, 10:38 PM	#7
lazorbeam Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2014 Device: iPhone; Fire HD	Bookstores have definitely changed and we probably do over-categorize everything. To be honest, I don't generally search by genre too often when importing but I have a terrible time remembering author names so importing based on that can get a bit tedious. I do like the option to type in part of a title or series name and find what I'm looking for.

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