Firmware Update Downgrade Kindle Paperwhite from 5.6.5 to previous version

gudzik · 08-31-2015, 02:37 PM

Hi everybody!

I’ve just updated my PW2 to 5.6.5 firmware version. To say I’m disappointed is to say nothing. I read mainly foreign literature and that’s why I use the word translation almost with every book including technical literature. This is the primary feature for me. After the update the popup window with word’s meaning looks just terrible.

The first thing is that they’ve truncated the popup window area. Now the window can show only 8 rows from the dictionary. The previous version was 50% higher. The second is that they disabled the ability to open dictionary in case when selected word was not found in the dictionary. Sometimes it is useful to open the dictionary manually in case when the software didn't manage to find the translation automatically. For example in case of verbs that are used in simple past tense or for separable verbs in German.

So, is there any way to rollback the firmware update from 5.6.5 to previous version? Because I cry every time I look at new translation popup.

Maybe, there is also an email address I can use to write to Kindle development team to ask they at least return the ability to open dictionary manually?

shamanNS · 08-31-2015, 04:09 PM

On fw 5.6.5 you have "Open Dictionary" option when you tap on 3 dots icon, last icon on the Highlight/Note/Share/Search floating bar.

gudzik · 08-31-2015, 04:39 PM

Yes, I know. I can use it when the translation was found. But it is disabled (greyed) when the dictionary didn't find matches. So, in this case I need to get to the Home screen, then find a collection with dictionaries, which is placed at the very end of the book list (and that means I need to page a lot) and only then I reach my dictionary.

Although I keep my books sorted by "Recent" I have to page to the end, because dictionaries are always kept at the end. So there is no a 'simple' way to get to the dictionary.

HarryT · 09-01-2015, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gudzik

Although I keep my books sorted by "Recent" I have to page to the end, because dictionaries are always kept at the end. So there is no a 'simple' way to get to the dictionary.

Home page, "Search", enter your word or phrase, then tap the "Dictionary" heading.

gudzik · 09-01-2015, 02:55 PM

Thanks, Harry!

adriaja · 09-01-2015, 05:13 PM

Highlight just another simple word near by, so you can open the dictionary without going to homepage.

HarryT · 09-01-2015, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adriaja

Highlight just another simple word near by, so you can open the dictionary without going to homepage.

I think the method I suggested is perhaps more efficient.

gudzik · 09-02-2015, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I think the method I suggested is perhaps more efficient.

By the way, I tried to do so and it doesn't work for me. There is no 'Dictionary' option but 'Dictionary and Wikipedia'. And it works different. It opens not the dictionary itself but only one article with translation. So it's not what I want. What is even worse, to open i.e. German dictionary instead of English one, I need to take care about what keyboard language is selected. Otherwise it opens wrong dictionary.

But that is only the half of the problem for me. The translation popup window still looks awful. I really don't understand why did they change the translation feature. It was almost perfect before, and that for such a long period of time! And now these 'paged' popups...

I loved my Kindle, it's the third one I bought. But now I'm starting to hate it. Besides, I've bought PW2 because of it's translation feature, which is totally different now. May I demand my money back?

May be there is some way to roll back the firmware update or jailbreak and roll back? Is there any support email from amazon I can write a feedback or something?

HarryT · 09-02-2015, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gudzik

By the way, I tried to do so and it doesn't work for me. There is no 'Dictionary' option but 'Dictionary and Wikipedia'. And it works different. It opens not the dictionary itself but only one article with translation.

What specific firmware version are you running? When I do a search on my Voyage (firmware 5.6.5), the results screen is split into five areas:

My Items (returns books with authors or titles matching the search string)
Kindle Store
Text in Books (matches the search text anywhere inside a book)
Dictionary
Wikipedia

If I select "Dictionary" it opens the dictionary to the entry for the entered search string.

gudzik · 09-02-2015, 12:46 PM

I have 5.6.5 (2730300038). Kindle Paperwhite (2nd gen). When I do a search I have:
My Items
Kindle Store
Coodreads
Text in Books
Dictionary and Wikipedia

When I touch the last one it opens full screen window with two tabs: 1) Dictionary, 2) Wikipedia. At the bottom there is also additional 'Open Dictionary' option. When I use it, it opens a dictionary to the beginning not to the entry.

HarryT · 09-02-2015, 12:54 PM

How very strange. The same version of firmware normally behaves identically on different devices.

I wonder if it's perhaps because you also have "Goodreads" there, which I don't? (It's not available to people outside the U.S.) Is it possible to turn it off and see if that gives you the same search results screen that I see?

dordale · 09-02-2015, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

How very strange. The same version of firmware normally behaves identically on different devices.

I wonder if it's perhaps because you also have "Goodreads" there, which I don't? (It's not available to people outside the U.S.) Is it possible to turn it off and see if that gives you the same search results screen that I see?

I'm seeing the same thing as gudzik--except when I choose the "Open Dictionary" at the bottom of the of the screen with "dictionary"/"wikepedia" tabs on the top, it does open the dictionary to the entry I was looking up--not to the beginning of the dictionary.

I think Harry's right--it probably has to do with the "Goodreads" availability. If "Goodreads" is available, it takes up space, so that Dictionary and Wikepedia are combined as an option. Unfortunately, I don't believe there is any way to disable the "Goodreads" link. I've never used or set up Goodreads on any of my Kindles, but the option is there--and as far as I can tell, no way to disable it.

jgaiser · 09-02-2015, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gudzik

When I touch the last one it opens full screen window with two tabs: 1) Dictionary, 2) Wikipedia. At the bottom there is also additional 'Open Dictionary' option. When I use it, it opens a dictionary to the beginning not to the entry.

Yes, it appears to be related to the Goodreads entry. But, when I use 'Open Dictionary' option, it opens the full dictionary to the *entry*, not the beginning. I need to use 'Goto' to get to the beginning of the dictionary.

krbo · 09-02-2015, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I wonder if it's perhaps because you also have "Goodreads" there, which I don't? (It's not available to people outside the U.S.)

surprise! - as of Sep. 1st GR is available for UK & Ireland, look:

GR blog post

HarryT · 09-03-2015, 02:55 AM

I can't say that this fills me with joy

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08-31-2015, 02:37 PM	#1
gudzik Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Downgrade Kindle Paperwhite from 5.6.5 to previous version Hi everybody! I’ve just updated my PW2 to 5.6.5 firmware version. To say I’m disappointed is to say nothing. I read mainly foreign literature and that’s why I use the word translation almost with every book including technical literature. This is the primary feature for me. After the update the popup window with word’s meaning looks just terrible. The first thing is that they’ve truncated the popup window area. Now the window can show only 8 rows from the dictionary. The previous version was 50% higher. The second is that they disabled the ability to open dictionary in case when selected word was not found in the dictionary. Sometimes it is useful to open the dictionary manually in case when the software didn't manage to find the translation automatically. For example in case of verbs that are used in simple past tense or for separable verbs in German. So, is there any way to rollback the firmware update from 5.6.5 to previous version? Because I cry every time I look at new translation popup. Maybe, there is also an email address I can use to write to Kindle development team to ask they at least return the ability to open dictionary manually?

09-02-2015, 12:54 PM	#11
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	How very strange. The same version of firmware normally behaves identically on different devices. I wonder if it's perhaps because you also have "Goodreads" there, which I don't? (It's not available to people outside the U.S.) Is it possible to turn it off and see if that gives you the same search results screen that I see? Last edited by HarryT; 09-02-2015 at 12:56 PM.

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shamanNS Wizard Posts: 1,098 Karma: 12000220 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Serbia Device: Kindle PW5, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle PW1	On fw 5.6.5 you have "Open Dictionary" option when you tap on 3 dots icon, last icon on the Highlight/Note/Share/Search floating bar.

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gudzik Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Yes, I know. I can use it when the translation was found. But it is disabled (greyed) when the dictionary didn't find matches. So, in this case I need to get to the Home screen, then find a collection with dictionaries, which is placed at the very end of the book list (and that means I need to page a lot) and only then I reach my dictionary. Although I keep my books sorted by "Recent" I have to page to the end, because dictionaries are always kept at the end. So there is no a 'simple' way to get to the dictionary.

09-01-2015, 02:55 PM	#5
gudzik Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Thanks, Harry!

09-01-2015, 05:13 PM	#6
adriaja Member Posts: 18 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: Kindle: Oasis and Voyage	Highlight just another simple word near by, so you can open the dictionary without going to homepage.

09-02-2015, 12:46 PM	#10
gudzik Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	I have 5.6.5 (2730300038). Kindle Paperwhite (2nd gen). When I do a search I have: My Items Kindle Store Coodreads Text in Books Dictionary and Wikipedia When I touch the last one it opens full screen window with two tabs: 1) Dictionary, 2) Wikipedia. At the bottom there is also additional 'Open Dictionary' option. When I use it, it opens a dictionary to the beginning not to the entry.

09-03-2015, 02:55 AM	#15
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I can't say that this fills me with joy .

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