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Old 04-04-2014, 05:08 AM   #1
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I would like to suggest a new sticky thread.

There is a discussion of changes to ebooks: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...=236430&page=8, particularly with post 114 that is related to MR.

Let me start by saying I have no problem letting people contribute whatever they want; I just want to know if there have been "changes" made to "classics". For example, changing "gay" to "light-hearted" would need a strong comment that the text has been modified; Whereas cleaning up a line-break error is fine.

What do people think about a sticky thread specifying such contributors/contributions? Something like: The first post would list contributors who contribute "original" ebooks. The second post would list contributors who contribute "modernizations".

For example the first post's list would start with HarryT. The second post's list would contain AlexBell.

There would be no stigma attached to being on either list. If no one else would like to maintain the thread, I'll volunteer.
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:48 AM   #2
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I would have no objection at all to such a sticky. But can't I be on both? There are some ebooks I've done where I've only corrected typos (or at least, the ones I see) and haven't changed any words. It depends on the ebook.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:40 AM   #3
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I would have no objection at all to such a sticky. But can't I be on both? There are some ebooks I've done where I've only corrected typos (or at least, the ones I see) and haven't changed any words. It depends on the ebook.
I would put you on the second list, with an asterix by your name. If you clearly stated in your contibutions threads which were moderinizations and which weren't, than you could be in both posts with asterixes. Otherwise, no soup for you!
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:22 AM   #4
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If I am understanding your suggestion correctly, you want the books submitted to Mobileread to be annotated.

If that is what you want, the post for each book should have the changes listed, not a GENERAL DISCUSSION thread.

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Old 04-04-2014, 09:58 AM   #5
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If I am understanding your suggestion correctly, you want the books submitted to Mobileread to be annotated. ...
I don't care what is submitted. I'm not looking for notes within the ebook, although that would be great, and seems the most direct.

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... If that is what you want, the post for each book should have the changes listed, not a GENERAL DISCUSSION thread.
Ideally, yes. But I don't need a detailed list of what changed, just some sort of statement whether it is a "true" original work.

Using AlexBell as an example (again, sorry for singling him out). In one of his contributions, he says:

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... The source text was Project Gutenberg 1917-h.htm. I have corrected typos, curled quotes, and modernised punctuation, spelling, and hyphenation using oxforddictionaries.com.

As always if you find any errors please let me know so I can correct them. ...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=232461

In a conversation in a separate thread, he posts that he made additional changes ("gay" --> "light hearted"). There is no mention of this in the contribution thread.

I have an aversion to posting something that may be considered negative in a contributors thread.

So I think a central thread with a quick reference of which contributors are/aren't doing modernizations would be helpful as a quick reference. Someplace where I can go to do a quick check, and than do a more detailed search if I have any doubts.

I would hope that contributors could post to this main thread saying that they are/aren't doing modernizations.

Or maybe I'm over thinking this.
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Old 04-04-2014, 10:07 AM   #6
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The place for such comments is with the book. Others won't care and we don't need to start flame wars over whether the works contributors is true to the original because it changes a comma.
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Old 04-04-2014, 10:54 AM   #7
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:53 AM   #8
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:37 PM   #9
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I do. And I like your idea of a sticky thread; perhaps not one neatly dividing the uploaders into two groups, but one in which uploaders explain their editing policies.

I for one change almost nothing: most certainly no words, and I don't modernize any spellings. Usually I will even leave a typo alone, unless I am both more than certain that it is one and think that it will confuse readers if not corrected. This doesn't happen very often.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:31 PM   #10
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I do not think we should isolate a list of contributors in a thread. I do think that substantial modifications (anything beyond fixing typos and punctuation) should be mentioned in the thread where the eBook is submitted. If a author's work is modified, out of respect to the author, this should be stated explicitly what sort of changes were made. It may be, in the future eBook database, that this sort of thing would be part of the metadata on the book.

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