|  12-06-2013, 07:22 AM | #1 | 
| Guru            Posts: 677 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara, | 
				
				Is ADE safe to use/download?
			 
			
			Hi everyone,  I was wondering whether it was safe to download and use ADE on my Mac, given all the customer details that keep being stolen, along with the other disasters such as zero day viruses. Is it ok for me to download ADE, or should I stay well clear? Particularly as the latest Mac update disabled Adobe updater, so that Mac's wouldn't fall prey to whichever adobe software versions that caused all the problems. Any advice would be much appreciated, as I bough two kobo ebooks, and don't know how else to download them. Waylander | 
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|  12-06-2013, 07:32 AM | #2 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 4,338 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1 | 
			
			The hack was related to adobe's servers, not ade. And you do need an adobe account for books with drm.  And what the hell is that zero day virus story about ? I now use mantano on my tablet (android). Don't know if there are alternative software on mac that can handle adept. | 
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|  12-06-2013, 07:45 AM | #3 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			It's almost exactly as safe as any software that requires you to create a profile (in which personal details are stored) that is maintained on remote servers is.
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|  12-06-2013, 10:03 AM | #4 | 
| The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠            Posts: 74,433 Karma: 318076944 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis | 
			
			Just use a different password on your ADE account than you use anywhere else, and you'll be fine even if they get hacked again. It's good practise to never reuse a password. | 
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|  12-06-2013, 10:09 AM | #5 | 
| Guru            Posts: 677 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara, | 
			
			I decided to authorise my computer without actually registering, as it allows this and it seemed more secure. I don't think I will use it very much anyway, as its really bad.
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|  12-06-2013, 10:25 AM | #6 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			It is more secure. Unfortunately, it's also the easiest way to lose access to your future DRMed purchases should something ever happen to that computer/installation. The DRM for books downloaded to that authorised computer will be tied to that installation, and that installation only. Not to suggest that that's a deal-breaker, by any means. Just understand that many people have been burned by that method--especially when they switch to an Adobe ID later, and realize they no longer have access to their past DRMed ebook purchases. | 
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|  12-06-2013, 10:36 AM | #7 | |
| Testate Amoeba            Posts: 3,049 Karma: 27300000 Join Date: Sep 2012 Device: Many Android devices, Kindle 2, Toshiba e755 PocketPC | Quote: 
 If you want the benefits of registering without giving away any information, you can use a gibberish email address. As far as I can tell, Adobe only checks that your email address contains "@" and ".", so sabbfhwpeqasdg@zzsawrsh.com is fine. After ADE is installed, you don't ever have to remember your login details unless you have to reinstall, so just write it down and keep it somewhere. "Thank you for registering, Mr. Nsbne7baqenj!" | |
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|  12-06-2013, 11:47 AM | #8 | |
| Guru            Posts: 787 Karma: 1575310 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Moon+ Pro | Quote: 
 Not reusing passwords is a great idea-except you need to have a system for remembering them. I currently have about 100 sites that require a login. Can I remember 100 passwords? I'm lucky to remember one-so I store my login information in a single password-protected document. Plus I write them down as a backup. Writing down passwords used to be a no-no but today security breaches are more often online rather than due to physical access-so the 'sticky note' password is less of a problem. I still don't recommend making it quite that obvious though. At least put it in a desk drawer, preferably locking. | |
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|  12-06-2013, 11:56 AM | #9 | |
| The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠            Posts: 74,433 Karma: 318076944 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis | Quote: 
 If you go this route, I strongly recommend making use of Alf's tools, and keeping good backups of your de-drmed ebooks. | |
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|  12-06-2013, 01:26 PM | #10 | 
| Guru            Posts: 677 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara, | 
			
			Thanks for your advice. Ive done the de-drming bit, so should be ok.
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|  12-06-2013, 01:56 PM | #11 | 
| Omnivorous            Posts: 3,283 Karma: 27978909 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rural NW Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD, Kindle 3, KPW1 | 
			
			I currently use the paid version of LastPass and really like it. Works in Windows, works in Linux, works on my iPhone. Generates random passwords and warns you if you're using the same password across multiple sites (which, unfortunately I had/have a bad habit of doing).
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|  12-06-2013, 02:58 PM | #12 | |||
| Ex-Helpdesk Junkie            Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only) | 
			
			I will second the recommendation of Lastpass. Even the free (non-premium) version supplies all the functionality except for the mobile apps, and a few exotic options. It encrypts your data locally and stores only the encrypted blob without the password on their servers for multi-device sync, using military-grade encryption. It will automatically generate secure passwords that are random enough to remain unbroken even AFTER adobe's servers were hacked. And Adobe claims the hacked passwords were from a backup that wasn't using contemporary security -- in other words, new accounts are protected far better. http://arstechnica.com/security/2013...word-crackers/ Quote: 
 Either way, your best bet is to use a unique, randomly generated password. The harder your password is to break, the more likely the hackers will give up after cracking the passwords of the other 70% of people who didn't follow proper password security protocol. http://arstechnica.com/security/2012...under-assault/ Quote: 
 I don't, but then, I only really use ADE for library books, and didn't bother registering. I couldn't care less if I lose future access to them, since they are only good for 3 weeks anyway.   | |||
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|  12-07-2013, 04:10 PM | #13 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1 | 
			
			If you run Windows, one can also look into Keepass2. It's open source and free. It also runs on Linux and Mac (if you're not averse to Mono, and two days of fiddling), or you can use the Keepass 1.x data format and install the Linux-native KeepassX. With regard to the Adobe-ID: I just leave it completely empty except for the e-mail address and password. The password is unique to that account (they all are, as I use Keepass2). I also de-DRM my books. If my Adobe Account gets hacked, I just abaondon it and create a new one. Last edited by Katsunami; 12-07-2013 at 04:14 PM. | 
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