DeDrmed

Big McLargeHuge · 10-30-2012, 08:03 PM

I know you guys aren't allowed to talk about how to strip a book of it's DRM. That's fine, i already know how. But what i wanted to know was if there was a simple way to tell if a book has DRM or not, just so i can be sure. Thanks for any help, it's much appreciated!

ratflinger · 10-30-2012, 08:31 PM

Well you could load it into Calibre and see if it opens

qlob · 10-30-2012, 09:49 PM

I think there is a python program around this forum that checks for the existence of drm, but you would have to search for it.

ProfCrash · 10-31-2012, 07:37 AM

Just go to Calibre. If a book has DRM it will show up in a file with some AMZ type name. If it does not have DRM it will show up in a file as Mobi.

PoP · 10-31-2012, 08:44 AM

On windows system you can use Alissa's excellent Mobi Handler. When displaying the ebook properties, you will see that drmed books have the "encrypted" box checked.

jswinden · 10-31-2012, 11:25 AM

Orrrrrr...you could try to side load the book to a different Kindle or device running the Kindle app. A non-DRMed book will open on any other Kindle/device but a DRMed book can only be opened with the Kindle/device on which it was initially downloaded/purchased.

Lutraa · 10-31-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

Orrrrrr...you could try to side load the book to a different Kindle or device running the Kindle app. A non-DRMed book will open on any other Kindle/device but a DRMed book can only be opened with the Kindle/device on which it was initially downloaded/purchased.

Not quite true -- a DRMed book will not open on a Kindle registered to a different owner from the owner of the K for which it was purchased, but it can be read on any K registered to the book purchaser (many of us own more than one K).

Think of it this way: the owner of a DRMed book possesses a license to read the book on any Kindle she owns. Depending on the book, she is also entitled to lend (temporarily transfer) the license to read to another Kindle user. While the book is lent out, it cannot be read on the original purchaser's devices.

Blessedx5 · 10-31-2012, 01:56 PM

This gets confusing, sorry
Question:
I have a Sony reader, I am purchasing a Kindle reader. Is there a way to legally get my books that are DRM epubs from Sony to Kindle?

DiapDealer · 10-31-2012, 02:10 PM

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Not quite true -- a DRMed book will not open on a Kindle registered to a different owner from the owner of the K for which it was purchased, but it can be read on any K registered to the book purchaser (many of us own more than one K).

Also not quite true -- the exact same DRMed ebook file can only be read on the specific device it was downloaded to/for -- regardless of registration. For example: a DRMed file from Kindle for PC's library folder cannot be manually copied to a Kindle device and opened... even if the app and the device is registered to the same Amazon account. The DRM -- while specific to a user -- is also specific to each device/app registered to that user. It's trivial to download a new copy of the ebook that's encrypted for that device/app, but once downloaded, the files are not able to be manually copied back and forth willy-nilly between devices/apps registered to the same user (if they have DRM).

Binko · 10-31-2012, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blessedx5

This gets confusing, sorry
Question:
I have a Sony reader, I am purchasing a Kindle reader. Is there a way to legally get my books that are DRM epubs from Sony to Kindle?

Legally? No. Because it is illegal to circumvent DRM.

Morally, I'd say yes, you have the basic right to read an ebook you have purchased on the device of your choice.

Laws in the United States these days are written for the benefit of corporations and big government, not for the benefit of individual citizens.

There are lots of examples where legality and basic human morality are in conflict. For example, in many states you don't own the rainwater that falls on your own property and you are breaking the law if you save the rain in a barrel and use it to water your tomato plants.

ProfCrash · 10-31-2012, 02:12 PM

Nope. Kindle books can only be read on Kindles. You have to remove the DRM and convert from Amazon's format to EPub in order to get the books on a Sony.

jswinden · 10-31-2012, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lutraa

Not quite true -- a DRMed book will not open on a Kindle registered to a different owner from the owner of the K for which it was purchased, but it can be read on any K registered to the book purchaser (many of us own more than one K).

Think of it this way: the owner of a DRMed book possesses a license to read the book on any Kindle she owns. Depending on the book, she is also entitled to lend (temporarily transfer) the license to read to another Kindle user. While the book is lent out, it cannot be read on the original purchaser's devices.

If Whispersynced true. I'm talking about transferring (side loading) a physical file between devices. I've always heard that each Kindle will receive via Whispersync a book file tied directly to that device and no other. In other words, a book file sent to your Kindle Touch cannot be side loaded to your Kindle Fire if it is protected with DRM.

pidgeon92 · 10-31-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

In other words, a book file sent to your Kindle Touch cannot be side loaded to your Kindle Fire if it is protected with DRM.

That is correct. A DRMd Amazon ebook must be downloaded for the specific device, which must be registered on the account.

vxf · 10-31-2012, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blessedx5

This gets confusing, sorry
Question:
I have a Sony reader, I am purchasing a Kindle reader. Is there a way to legally get my books that are DRM epubs from Sony to Kindle?

I am not sure about 'legality'. You have to remove DRM, which is, I believe, not legal.

But you would have to download Calibre (donations-sponsored software) then search for 'Apprentice Alf's blog' and follow instructions there.
Then convert the DRM-free file to MOBI (Kindle's format).
It probably takes about one hour of fiddling, less if you are smarter than me. Once you figure it out, it is a really fast process.
I recently moved from SONY to Kindle as well. I am really glad I did.

Big McLargeHuge · 10-31-2012, 04:27 PM

I tried opening the book in Kindle for PC on a different PC then mines using my brother's account. It opened. Weird thing though, almost all my dedrmed books are in AZW3 format. I thought that meant that they still had DRM?

Edit: By the way, thanks for all the help guys

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10-30-2012, 08:03 PM	#1
Big McLargeHuge Enthusiast Posts: 47 Karma: 490332 Join Date: Mar 2012 Device: None Currently	DeDrmed I know you guys aren't allowed to talk about how to strip a book of it's DRM. That's fine, i already know how. But what i wanted to know was if there was a simple way to tell if a book has DRM or not, just so i can be sure. Thanks for any help, it's much appreciated!

10-31-2012, 08:44 AM	#5
PoP curly᷂͓̫̙᷊̥̮̾ͯͤͭͬͦͨ ʎʌɹnɔ Posts: 3,018 Karma: 50506927 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: ♁ ᴺ₄₅°₃₀' ᵂ₇₃°₃₇' ±₆₀" Device: K3₃.₄.₃ PW3&4₅.₁₃.₃	Use Mobi Handler On windows system you can use Alissa's excellent Mobi Handler. When displaying the ebook properties, you will see that drmed books have the "encrypted" box checked.

10-31-2012, 04:27 PM	#15
Big McLargeHuge Enthusiast Posts: 47 Karma: 490332 Join Date: Mar 2012 Device: None Currently	I tried opening the book in Kindle for PC on a different PC then mines using my brother's account. It opened. Weird thing though, almost all my dedrmed books are in AZW3 format. I thought that meant that they still had DRM? Edit: By the way, thanks for all the help guys . Last edited by Big McLargeHuge; 10-31-2012 at 04:31 PM.

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ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Just go to Calibre. If a book has DRM it will show up in a file with some AMZ type name. If it does not have DRM it will show up in a file as Mobi.

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jswinden Nameless Being	Orrrrrr...you could try to side load the book to a different Kindle or device running the Kindle app. A non-DRMed book will open on any other Kindle/device but a DRMed book can only be opened with the Kindle/device on which it was initially downloaded/purchased.

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Blessedx5 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 1534 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: Sony prs650	This gets confusing, sorry Question: I have a Sony reader, I am purchasing a Kindle reader. Is there a way to legally get my books that are DRM epubs from Sony to Kindle?

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ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Nope. Kindle books can only be read on Kindles. You have to remove the DRM and convert from Amazon's format to EPub in order to get the books on a Sony.

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