Remove or undo K3 update(s)

pghaworth · 09-19-2010, 04:27 AM

Is there a way to undo or remove updates from the Kindle 3. I want to restore my K3 to the way I received it day one.

When I got my K3 I had no pauses when turning the page. The page turns were really fast and I was very impressed. I never saw any black as the page refreshed itself. Once the 3.0.1 update was pushed thru my page turns slowed down to that of my K1 [side by side comparison]. When turning the page I could see an entire legible black page for at least one second. This screen shows itself even when bookmarking. Additionally, when selecting an item my K3 now shows a large black bar instead of the line being selected.

I upgraded to 3.0.2 but my page turns, while somewhat faster, are no where near what they were "pre-update", and all other issues still apply.

Anyone know how to back off the unwelcome updates? Thank you in advance for your help.

Cloysterpete · 09-19-2010, 05:07 AM

All Kindle's have the flash to black, it's how e-ink refreshes the screen so if you didn't see it on firmware 3.0 then you must have had your eyes closed.

But sorry I don't know if it's possible to go back to the old firmware after putting on the improved release.

pghaworth · 09-19-2010, 05:15 AM

I had the anomaly K3 then because I had no flash, NONE, or if I had one, it was so little as to be completely unnoticeable, AND there was no flash when I put a bookmark in place. Now there is, and it is very noticeable. Even my 2008 K1 doesn't flash black when I bookmark the page. If my page turns are as slow as my K1 and K2 what the point of keeping the K3. I am not the only one who experienced this page turn slow-down phenomenon after the 3.0.1 update.

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Originally Posted by Cloysterpete

All Kindle's have the flash to black, it's how e-ink refreshes the screen so if you didn't see it on firmware 3.0 then you must have had your eyes closed.

Just understand that while this may be your experience, it was not mine prior to the 3.0.1 update.

The change was so striking that it made me angry and I can't read on it anymore. If I can't fix it it's going back until they get this resolved.

Cloysterpete · 09-19-2010, 05:22 AM

If you really didn't have that black flash you could have sold it on ebay for a fair bit of cash as all the kindle 3 I've checked in online vids or something (like 20+ of them) have the black flash.

There is no point sending it back unless your going to start reading on an ipad or something, as all e-readers hat use e-ink have the back flash also a future firmware update won't fix it as it's designed to operate that way.

Cloysterpete · 09-19-2010, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

If my page turns are as slow as my K1 and K2 what the point of keeping the K3. I am not the only one who experienced this page turn slow-down phenomenon after the 3.0.1 update.

The point is the screen contrast is far better than the K1 or K2, what do you spend more time doing?, reading the page of the book or spending 1 second changing the page?. I could never use a kindle 1 or 2 with a poorer screen after using the K3.

Oh and I had the slow page turns myself, think they are gone now with 3.02 but I've not tested in the sun yet.

pghaworth · 09-19-2010, 05:27 AM

I'm here with a real issue asking for real help, while it appears you are only here to call me a liar. Why?

Cloysterpete · 09-19-2010, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

I'm here with a real issue asking for real help, while it appears you are only here to call me a liar. Why?

It is my belief that each and every Kindle has the flash to black, I will eat my words if you find me a YouTube video showing me a single Kindle (any gen) that doesn't do this.

pghaworth · 09-19-2010, 05:30 AM

The point IS that the slow page turns are gone with the most recent update for some, not all. If I see black I can't read well, now can I? The page turns are as slow as my K1 so where's the promised improvement [post-update]? I never had an issue with my K1, not one. No need to pay to have a lesser reading experience.

pghaworth · 09-19-2010, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloysterpete

It is my belief that each and every Kindle has the flash to black, I will eat my words if you find me a YouTube video showing me a single Kindle (any gen) that doesn't do this.

Again, why do you come to this thread to call me a liar?

Cloysterpete · 09-19-2010, 05:33 AM

But you don't seem to understand, everyone has this flash to black, everyone always has had it, going back to 3.0 won't change that. Post a video so we can see how long your flash to black is, around 1 second is perfectly normal.

Cloysterpete · 09-19-2010, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pghaworth

Again, why do you come to this thread to call me a liar?

Did I not just explain my reason for doubting how your Kindle was operating with 3.0?.

pghaworth · 09-19-2010, 05:35 AM

Did you not read any of my posts? Please go back and reread, THEN comment, and only then. I now have NOTICEABLE page turns while before I did not. My reading experience is lessened. I asked for help in restoring to pre-update status. Why does this bother you?

pghaworth · 09-19-2010, 05:36 AM

Thank you for helping me keep this at the top.

TheKindleWorm · 09-19-2010, 05:37 AM

Everyone has a different experience when using ereaders - I can remember when I first got my K3 I was disappointed because the black on the page turns was a lot more noticeable than on my K2. With the firmware updates, my K3 is much better and I don't seem to notice the page turning black between page turns even though it does.

So I just think perhaps for some people this blacking on the page turns appears worse and I'm also sure I read somewhere that no two eink screens are ever identical anyway so a replacement might actually work best for the OP.

pghaworth · 09-19-2010, 05:42 AM

Good points all. I am on the verge of sending it back. I got one replacement today but the turns are still very slow. If I can't restore my original speed by removing the updates and get the black screens to go away, even from places they don't show up on my K1 and K2, I have no choice but to return them both. Both of my other Kindles are as fast, which wasn't the case before the first update. It's a real disappointment. I was loving my K3 until the fateful update.

09-19-2010, 04:27 AM	#1
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	Remove or undo K3 update(s) Is there a way to undo or remove updates from the Kindle 3. I want to restore my K3 to the way I received it day one. When I got my K3 I had no pauses when turning the page. The page turns were really fast and I was very impressed. I never saw any black as the page refreshed itself. Once the 3.0.1 update was pushed thru my page turns slowed down to that of my K1 [side by side comparison]. When turning the page I could see an entire legible black page for at least one second. This screen shows itself even when bookmarking. Additionally, when selecting an item my K3 now shows a large black bar instead of the line being selected. I upgraded to 3.0.2 but my page turns, while somewhat faster, are no where near what they were "pre-update", and all other issues still apply. Anyone know how to back off the unwelcome updates? Thank you in advance for your help. Last edited by pghaworth; 09-19-2010 at 07:59 AM.

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09-19-2010, 05:07 AM	#2
Cloysterpete Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle	All Kindle's have the flash to black, it's how e-ink refreshes the screen so if you didn't see it on firmware 3.0 then you must have had your eyes closed. But sorry I don't know if it's possible to go back to the old firmware after putting on the improved release.

09-19-2010, 05:22 AM	#4
Cloysterpete Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle	If you really didn't have that black flash you could have sold it on ebay for a fair bit of cash as all the kindle 3 I've checked in online vids or something (like 20+ of them) have the black flash. There is no point sending it back unless your going to start reading on an ipad or something, as all e-readers hat use e-ink have the back flash also a future firmware update won't fix it as it's designed to operate that way.

09-19-2010, 05:27 AM	#6
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	I'm here with a real issue asking for real help, while it appears you are only here to call me a liar. Why?

09-19-2010, 05:30 AM	#8
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	The point IS that the slow page turns are gone with the most recent update for some, not all. If I see black I can't read well, now can I? The page turns are as slow as my K1 so where's the promised improvement [post-update]? I never had an issue with my K1, not one. No need to pay to have a lesser reading experience.

09-19-2010, 05:33 AM	#10
Cloysterpete Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle	But you don't seem to understand, everyone has this flash to black, everyone always has had it, going back to 3.0 won't change that. Post a video so we can see how long your flash to black is, around 1 second is perfectly normal.

09-19-2010, 05:35 AM	#12
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	Did you not read any of my posts? Please go back and reread, THEN comment, and only then. I now have NOTICEABLE page turns while before I did not. My reading experience is lessened. I asked for help in restoring to pre-update status. Why does this bother you?

09-19-2010, 05:36 AM	#13
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	Thank you for helping me keep this at the top.

09-19-2010, 05:37 AM	#14
TheKindleWorm Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 177868 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Anglia UK Device: Kindle 3G, iPhone 3G, iPod 4G, PB 360, Sony 600 sold, Kindle 2i sold	Everyone has a different experience when using ereaders - I can remember when I first got my K3 I was disappointed because the black on the page turns was a lot more noticeable than on my K2. With the firmware updates, my K3 is much better and I don't seem to notice the page turning black between page turns even though it does. So I just think perhaps for some people this blacking on the page turns appears worse and I'm also sure I read somewhere that no two eink screens are ever identical anyway so a replacement might actually work best for the OP.

09-19-2010, 05:42 AM	#15
pghaworth Fervent Pleasure Seeker Posts: 1,224 Karma: 712073 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Windmills of My Mind Device: Clara HD	Good points all. I am on the verge of sending it back. I got one replacement today but the turns are still very slow. If I can't restore my original speed by removing the updates and get the black screens to go away, even from places they don't show up on my K1 and K2, I have no choice but to return them both. Both of my other Kindles are as fast, which wasn't the case before the first update. It's a real disappointment. I was loving my K3 until the fateful update.

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