Not saving changes to titles

otrdiplomat · 12-01-2019, 08:34 AM

I convert books to both MOBI and EPUB. I thought a couple of versions ago that when I made a change to the title of the book such as:

Alex Cross - Along came a spider.mobi

to

Alex Cross 01 - Along Came a Spider - James Patterson.mobi

and then saved it. That when it was then imported in a iPad or Kindle it would show the name that I had given it. I do this since I find it easier for my mom to read books in order since that is about all she can do at this time is read books. And she likes to read them in order.

Is there a way to make sure that when I change the title of the book and do something simple like add the number and the author to the title and then I save it, when I email it to her it will actually import it giving it the name I chose.

Thans a lot for the answer and or time to read through this.

dwig · 12-01-2019, 08:59 AM

There seems to be some confusion here. Your example looks like it is the filenames you are changing. Filenames and titles are two completely different things.

Most ereaders will use the books true title, a field in the file's metadata, when listing the book. They generally fall back to using the filename only when the book lacks a true embedded title. Changing the filename will not change the display when there is an embedded title.

The best practice, IMO, is to keep the Title file unaltered and to use the Series field for ordering a series (e.g. "Alex Cross [01]"). In your example, the Title would be "Along Came a Spider", the Author would be "James Patterson", the Series would be "Alex Cross", and the Series_Index would be "1" in calibre. Then:

alter the save template in Preferences Save to Disk or Send to Device (or both) to do the filename modification automatically
add a Metadata Plugboard to alter the true embedded title.

This way, calibre will do the modifications for you automatically when you either Save to Disk or Send to Device.

I use a save template like "{series} {series_index:0>2s} {title} - {authors}" to get filenames similar to your example. My plugboards (one for each format that I use) have "{series} {series_index:0>2s} {title}" as the source with "title" as the destination and "{author_sort}" paired with "authors", which alters the embedded title in a similar manner.

deback · 12-01-2019, 09:19 AM

You could use the Polish plugin to update the metadata after you rename the filename. Install the Polish plugin, add the book to Calibre, press P to open the Polish plugin, and then check the box to update the metadata.

otrdiplomat · 12-01-2019, 09:31 AM

Thanks a lot for your response. Trying to help my mom read them in order so I guess I can give this a shot. Thanks

theducks · 12-01-2019, 10:06 AM

What is HER reading device?
That can ALSO make a difference in the suggested solution
(and how does she receive these?)

otrdiplomat · 12-01-2019, 10:07 AM

Thanks for your reply. It helps to learn as much as I can

12-01-2019, 08:34 AM	#1
otrdiplomat Really old and retired Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Missouri Device: Ipad	Not saving changes to titles I convert books to both MOBI and EPUB. I thought a couple of versions ago that when I made a change to the title of the book such as: Alex Cross - Along came a spider.mobi to Alex Cross 01 - Along Came a Spider - James Patterson.mobi and then saved it. That when it was then imported in a iPad or Kindle it would show the name that I had given it. I do this since I find it easier for my mom to read books in order since that is about all she can do at this time is read books. And she likes to read them in order. Is there a way to make sure that when I change the title of the book and do something simple like add the number and the author to the title and then I save it, when I email it to her it will actually import it giving it the name I chose. Thans a lot for the answer and or time to read through this.

12-01-2019, 08:59 AM	#2
dwig Wizard Posts: 1,613 Karma: 6718541 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Paradise (Key West, FL) Device: Current:Surface Go & Kindle 3 - Retired: DellV8p, Clie UX50, ...	There seems to be some confusion here. Your example looks like it is the filenames you are changing. Filenames and titles are two completely different things. Most ereaders will use the books true title, a field in the file's metadata, when listing the book. They generally fall back to using the filename only when the book lacks a true embedded title. Changing the filename will not change the display when there is an embedded title. The best practice, IMO, is to keep the Title file unaltered and to use the Series field for ordering a series (e.g. "Alex Cross [01]"). In your example, the Title would be "Along Came a Spider", the Author would be "James Patterson", the Series would be "Alex Cross", and the Series_Index would be "1" in calibre. Then: alter the save template in Preferences Save to Disk or Send to Device (or both) to do the filename modification automatically add a Metadata Plugboard to alter the true embedded title. This way, calibre will do the modifications for you automatically when you either Save to Disk or Send to Device. I use a save template like "{series} {series_index:0>2s} {title} - {authors}" to get filenames similar to your example. My plugboards (one for each format that I use) have "{series} {series_index:0>2s} {title}" as the source with "title" as the destination and "{author_sort}" paired with "authors", which alters the embedded title in a similar manner. Last edited by dwig; 12-01-2019 at 09:02 AM.

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12-01-2019, 09:19 AM	#3
deback Book E d i t o r Posts: 432 Karma: 288184 Join Date: May 2015 Device: Laptop	You could use the Polish plugin to update the metadata after you rename the filename. Install the Polish plugin, add the book to Calibre, press P to open the Polish plugin, and then check the box to update the metadata.

12-01-2019, 09:31 AM	#4
otrdiplomat Really old and retired Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Missouri Device: Ipad	Thanks a lot for your response. Trying to help my mom read them in order so I guess I can give this a shot. Thanks

12-01-2019, 10:06 AM	#5
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12-01-2019, 10:07 AM	#6
otrdiplomat Really old and retired Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Missouri Device: Ipad	Thanks for your reply. It helps to learn as much as I can

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