~ €250 Reader: good highlighting & annotation

nickoom · 12-30-2017, 12:35 PM

Hey. I'm looking for an ereader, hoping your expertise could help me choose. Been using an Kobo Aura H20 (2014), which I generally like - but it's slowness and lack of precision when highlighting text are very frustrating.

Major points:
- wide possibility of data formats (especially *.pdfs)
- good highlighting (and if possible annotation) functionality
- easy exportability of highlights & annotations

Size:
6.8 to 10 inch

Else:
- no Amazon devices

Any advice? Thanks!
(I'm having a Surface Pro which gets used occassionally, but I'm looking for a more battery concious alternative)

JSWolf · 12-30-2017, 03:29 PM

For PDF, forget an eInk Reader. Get an iPad or stick with your Surface Pro.

For the rest, I recommend a Kobo Aura H2O 2nd Edition. It's bout €180.

You don't have to buy from Kobo, but here is the description and specs.

https://uk.kobobooks.com/products/ko..._medium=TopNav

Cinisajoy · 12-30-2017, 06:07 PM

Agreeing with Jon, for PDF your best bet is your Surface Pro.

DuckieTigger · 12-30-2017, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

For PDF, forget an eInk Reader. Get an iPad or stick with your Surface Pro.

Quote:

For the rest, I recommend a Kobo Aura H2O 2nd Edition. It's bout €180.

Is an upgrade from H2O to H2O2 really significant when it comes to the speed of highlighting or its precision?

Pajamaman · 12-30-2017, 08:33 PM

An Onyx ereader reads pdf very well.It annotates well.too, though I think its like scribbling rather then text selection. Ask on the Onyx sub-forum and look on youtube. 250 will get you one easy. I read pdf on a 6.8" in landscape. Works well. but get biggest and newest model you can. screen size and processor help

meeera · 12-30-2017, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Is an upgrade from H2O to H2O2 really significant when it comes to the speed of highlighting or its precision?

Not particularly IME, but using kepub instead of epub might help.

JSWolf · 12-31-2017, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Is an upgrade from H2O to H2O2 really significant when it comes to the speed of highlighting or its precision?

The differences are you get IPX8 waterproofing, the comfort light pro (orange light), and 8GB of storage but it does not have an internal microSD card nor a microSD card slot. Similar processor to the H2O, a little smaller and lighter.

DuckieTigger · 12-31-2017, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The differences are you get IPX8 waterproofing, the comfort light pro (orange light), and 8GB of storage but it does not have an internal microSD card nor a microSD card slot. Similar processor to the H2O, a little smaller and lighter.

So basically it does NOT improve on the one thing OP is unhappy about in his own H2O. Namely poor performance highlighting.

He would probably be happy with an Oasis - it does everything he wants, but he has the requirement that it cannot be from Amazon.

DNSB · 12-31-2017, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

He would probably be happy with an Oasis - it does everything he wants, but he has the requirement that it cannot be from Amazon.

The Oasis 2 price squeaks in under his limit at €249.99 (amazon.fr).

He might want to look at the Tolino epos (€249.00 at thalia.de). Android based though so heavily skinned you can't get to Android. Highlighting works quite well in my limited use. 7.8", 300DPI, smartLight (variable colour temperature with optional automatic shift depending on time of day).

DuckieTigger · 12-31-2017, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNSB

The Oasis 2 price squeaks in under his limit at €249.99 (amazon.fr).

I looked in amazon.de at €229.99 - didn't think tax was that much higher in france.

DNSB · 12-31-2017, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

I looked in amazon.de at €229.99 - didn't think tax was that much higher in france.

My French is better than my German (which isn't saying much for either) so I tend to use the amazon.fr site. I suspect that either price would be before taxes.

JSWolf · 01-01-2018, 06:00 AM

The performance of highlighting with Kobo depends on the firmware. I find that the current firmware does a pretty good job with highlighting ePub. I don't really read kepub so cannot say how that is on the current firmware.

DuckieTigger · 01-01-2018, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNSB

My French is better than my German (which isn't saying much for either) so I tend to use the amazon.fr site. I suspect that either price would be before taxes.

No, that is a bad habit in the USA to show prices before tax. Germany (and I believe the rest of the EU) is required to post prices including tax online and in B&M stores. Both prices in amazon.de and amazon.fr mentioned that it included tax.

issybird · 01-01-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

No, that is a bad habit in the USA to show prices before tax.

I don't see what the alternative is, when each state and many localities have unique sales taxes.

Pajamaman · 01-01-2018, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

So basically it does NOT improve on the one thing OP is unhappy about in his own H2O. Namely poor performance highlighting.

He would probably be happy with an Oasis - it does everything he wants, but he has the requirement that it cannot be from Amazon.

OP has stated wants PDF functionality with exportable annotation. Can Oasis do that?

12-30-2017, 12:35 PM	#1
nickoom Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Device: Kobo, Onyx, ..	~ €250 Reader: good highlighting & annotation Hey. I'm looking for an ereader, hoping your expertise could help me choose. Been using an Kobo Aura H20 (2014), which I generally like - but it's slowness and lack of precision when highlighting text are very frustrating. Major points: - wide possibility of data formats (especially *.pdfs) - good highlighting (and if possible annotation) functionality - easy exportability of highlights & annotations Size: 6.8 to 10 inch Else: - no Amazon devices Any advice? Thanks! (I'm having a Surface Pro which gets used occassionally, but I'm looking for a more battery concious alternative)

12-30-2017, 08:33 PM	#5
Pajamaman Wizard Posts: 2,861 Karma: 10700629 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Canada Device: Onyx Nova	An Onyx ereader reads pdf very well.It annotates well.too, though I think its like scribbling rather then text selection. Ask on the Onyx sub-forum and look on youtube. 250 will get you one easy. I read pdf on a 6.8" in landscape. Works well. but get biggest and newest model you can. screen size and processor help Last edited by Pajamaman; 12-30-2017 at 08:40 PM.

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,758 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	For PDF, forget an eInk Reader. Get an iPad or stick with your Surface Pro. For the rest, I recommend a Kobo Aura H2O 2nd Edition. It's bout €180. You don't have to buy from Kobo, but here is the description and specs. https://uk.kobobooks.com/products/ko..._medium=TopNav

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Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	Agreeing with Jon, for PDF your best bet is your Surface Pro.

01-01-2018, 06:00 AM	#12
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,758 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The performance of highlighting with Kobo depends on the firmware. I find that the current firmware does a pretty good job with highlighting ePub. I don't really read kepub so cannot say how that is on the current firmware.

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