Content Font management

Phssthpok · 12-21-2017, 02:27 AM

I have a book which uses a special font for some of the text. By default it displays on my Kindle as Bookerly, and I have to select "Publisher's Fonts" to see the special font correctly. However, the rest of the text then appears in a sans-serif font. Obviously I can add a CSS rule for <body> to use a serif font as the default, but I have some questions:

1) Where does it get the default font from if there isn't one specified in the book?
2) Is there any way to have the Kindle honor special font specifications without having to manually select "Publisher's Fonts"?
3) Is there any way to mark the book so that anyone else who loads it onto their Kindle will automatically have the correct font selection, rather than having to change it manually?

Thanks!

jhowell · 12-21-2017, 08:47 AM

There was a recent discussion of related issues in this thread.

Phssthpok · 12-21-2017, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

There was a recent discussion of related issues in this thread.

Thanks for that. So just to check that I'm understanding that thread correctly:

1) if the book contains embedded fonts, I end up with some sans-serif font or other (don't know which) as the default, but specifying "body { font-family: serif; }" makes the default a serif font (Bookerly?)

2), 3): "no" to both.

Am I correct?

Phssthpok · 12-21-2017, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

There was a recent discussion of related issues in this thread.

In that thread, you said:

Quote:

But you should not need to select “publisher font” at all.
Your book should display any of the built-in fonts selected by the user for the main text. It should also show your embedded font in the limited places it is used, regardless of which main font the user has chosen.

And yet I see everything in Bookerly if Bookerly is selected instead of Publisher's Fonts. Is there some other spell I need to incant to make it show special fonts when I tell it to do so? Or is this a case of "it should do this, but it doesn't"?

Cinisajoy · 12-21-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Phssthpok

I have a book which uses a special font for some of the text. By default it displays on my Kindle as Bookerly, and I have to select "Publisher's Fonts" to see the special font correctly. However, the rest of the text then appears in a sans-serif font. Obviously I can add a CSS rule for <body> to use a serif font as the default, but I have some questions:

1) Where does it get the default font from if there isn't one specified in the book?
2) Is there any way to have the Kindle honor special font specifications without having to manually select "Publisher's Fonts"?
3) Is there any way to mark the book so that anyone else who loads it onto their Kindle will automatically have the correct font selection, rather than having to change it manually?

Thanks!

Some books have a set font and you can't do a thing about them.

Phssthpok · 12-21-2017, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Some books have a set font and you can't do a thing about them.

Not the case here, if you look at what I wrote. It's just that I seem to have to select "publisher font" if I want my special font to be used in the places where it's specified, rather than Bookerly (or whatever) being used throughout, regardless of what the CSS says to use.

Cinisajoy · 12-21-2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Phssthpok

Not the case here, if you look at what I wrote. It's just that I seem to have to select "publisher font" if I want my special font to be used in the places where it's specified, rather than Bookerly (or whatever) being used throughout, regardless of what the CSS says to use.

I did misread your post. Both yours and mine have good information though. I thought you were asking how to get rid of publisher font.

jhowell · 12-22-2017, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Phssthpok

And yet I see everything in Bookerly if Bookerly is selected instead of Publisher's Fonts. Is there some other spell I need to incant to make it show special fonts when I tell it to do so? Or is this a case of "it should do this, but it doesn't"?

That is just the way it works on e-ink Kindle devices with a book in KF8 format. It is not correct in my opinion, but I doubt Amazon will change it.

When using Kindle reading apps instead of an e-ink Kindle device or using KFX format it works as I expect it should.

DuckieTigger · 12-23-2017, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Phssthpok

1) Where does it get the default font from if there isn't one specified in the book?

The default font is Amazon Ember with bold setting at 0.

dordale · 12-24-2017, 03:28 AM

The way my Kindle Voyage works is that the default font for a book when first opened is the last font I used with the exception of the "Publisher" Font. If I was using Bookerly, then a new book will default to Bookerly, if I was using Ember, a new book will default to Ember. It will also default to the boldness I had previously been using.

If I'm using the "publisher font"--to make the book use the font that I've embedded in the AZW file, the next book I open will default to whichever Amazon supplied font has been used last.

Phssthpok · 12-24-2017, 03:30 AM

OK, thanks to all. I think I now understand...

Phssthpok · 12-24-2017, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

When using Kindle reading apps instead of an e-ink Kindle device or using KFX format it works as I expect it should.

I just noticed your comment about KFX format. Does anyone know of any tools for converting books to KFX (e.g. from EPUB or AZW3)?

jhowell · 12-24-2017, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Phssthpok

Does anyone know of any tools for converting books to KFX (e.g. from EPUB or AZW3)?

The KFX Output plugin for calibre.

JSWolf · 12-24-2017, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Phssthpok

Thanks for that. So just to check that I'm understanding that thread correctly:

1) if the book contains embedded fonts, I end up with some sans-serif font or other (don't know which) as the default, but specifying "body { font-family: serif; }" makes the default a serif font (Bookerly?)

2), 3): "no" to both.

Am I correct?

The serif font is not Bookerly.

DuckieTigger · 12-24-2017, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The serif font is not Bookerly.

I already answered that in post #9. For the default. If you are sure that Bookerly is not the default serif font, then which one is?

12-21-2017, 02:27 AM	#1
Phssthpok Age improves with wine. Posts: 576 Karma: 95229 Join Date: Nov 2014 Device: Kindle Oasis, Kobo Libra II	Font management I have a book which uses a special font for some of the text. By default it displays on my Kindle as Bookerly, and I have to select "Publisher's Fonts" to see the special font correctly. However, the rest of the text then appears in a sans-serif font. Obviously I can add a CSS rule for <body> to use a serif font as the default, but I have some questions: 1) Where does it get the default font from if there isn't one specified in the book? 2) Is there any way to have the Kindle honor special font specifications without having to manually select "Publisher's Fonts"? 3) Is there any way to mark the book so that anyone else who loads it onto their Kindle will automatically have the correct font selection, rather than having to change it manually? Thanks!

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jhowell Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,065 Karma: 91577715 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles	There was a recent discussion of related issues in this thread.

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dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	The way my Kindle Voyage works is that the default font for a book when first opened is the last font I used with the exception of the "Publisher" Font. If I was using Bookerly, then a new book will default to Bookerly, if I was using Ember, a new book will default to Ember. It will also default to the boldness I had previously been using. If I'm using the "publisher font"--to make the book use the font that I've embedded in the AZW file, the next book I open will default to whichever Amazon supplied font has been used last.

12-24-2017, 03:30 AM	#11
Phssthpok Age improves with wine. Posts: 576 Karma: 95229 Join Date: Nov 2014 Device: Kindle Oasis, Kobo Libra II	OK, thanks to all. I think I now understand...

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