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Old 12-12-2016, 09:35 PM   #1
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PRS-T1 died, what should I replace it with?

Apologies for the length.

As the title says, it looks like my PRS-T1 died due to a battery issue. I'm trying everything to fix it before buying something new but I'm not hopeful of a good outcome.

I'm in Australia and the following look like my best options for a quick replacement;

Kobo Glo - $99 (refurbished but with full manufacturer warranty)
Kobo Aura2 - $169
Possibility of a Kobo GloHD - $189(Myers has it listed but not all stores have any in stock)

Kindle paperwhite - $169

A bit about my priorities and reading habits;

Works out of the box preferred - I don't like having to play around with firmware, add features, download apps etc just to get the thing to be usable.
Dependability - no buggy firmware, no freezing up, no resets preferred.
Quickest page turns I can get - the PRS-T1 was always a bit slow for my liking but I got used to it. If I'm buying new hardware I might as well get as quick as I can.
Ability to adjust font size, type, etc.
Easy to use dictionary.
Solid build quality - I'm careful with my device but I don't want to have to wear cotton gloves and pack it in cotton wool when not in use.
Would like to get a quality protective cover for whichever one I buy, preferably not exorbitantly expensive.
I put 5-10 books on the reader at one time, read one and move on to the next. Don't do collections, groups etc. I usually delete the books off the device once read.
I don't use the cloud, I plug into the computer and load up books by using Calibre to "send to device". I have a wireless router and could use that but wireless is not hugely important to me and I'd probably prefer the way I'm used to.
My book collection is in epub format. I'm unlikely to read any of my current books again but could easily use Calibre to occasionally change the format of a book if need be.

The price of any of them is not a worry but obviously the Glo is cheapest and that would be nice. I'd be having a good look at it to see what sort of condition it is in prior to purchase. Is there any obvious reason not to buy it if it's in good condition?

Of the others;

I realise the Aura2 has a lower resolution than GloHD and PW, however I've found the 167ppi on the PRS-T1 fine so I imagine the Aura's 212 would be even better and perfectly fine for me. Of course more ppi is better though. ;-)
I've read that the light on the Aura is better than the one on the GloHD but maybe not as good as the PW.
I've read that the build quality of the GloHD may not be as good as the Aura.
I've read that the firmware on the GloHD has had problems and that the Aura2 is less buggy.
I've heard the Kobo doesn't really support epub but only Kepub so maybe no real benefit over the Kindle in terms of format anyway.
I've read that the Kobo's in general are pretty slow with regards to page turns, opening books, etc but have no idea if that is simply an e-ink thing and if the PW is any faster.

If I had to rank them right now it'd be like this.....
1: Kobo Glo (cheapest and does what I need it to do)
2: Kobo Aura2 (due to reports of better light, better build quality, better firmware than GloHD and possibly better format support than the PW)
3: Kindle PW (due to Amazon proprietary formats, would happily move it up the list if the whole Kepub Vs epub thing means the Kobo is no better and if page turns are noticeably quicker than the Kobo's)
4: Kobo GloHD (Unless negative reports I've read have been greatly exaggerated and assuming I can find one in stock)

So, what's the consensus? Which would you all buy?
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:29 PM   #2
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I think you'd probably be happy with any of them really.


As to the ePub/kePub thing. The Kobo's support regular ePub in addition to their kePub (which Calibre can convert on the fly during send to device). The Kobo's actually have two separate sets of reading software, one for ePub's (& PDF's) and one for kePub's. Both display books a bit differently and it's a personal choice thing as to which you prefer. I personally use kePub, but lots of folks prefer ePub.

The Kindle is nice too (I don't have, but I bought one for my Mom last Christmas so have some experience) and wouldn't likely disappoint.

One nice thing with the Kobo's is the ability to easily add your own fonts if you choose and the ability to adjust font boldness. They are also more adjustable when it comes to line spacing and margins (Kindle gives three options for each), if that matters.

I do find my Kobo (Aura HD) slightly less responsive at times than the Kindle, but it's not a huge difference and is only noticeable at all occasionally.

Of course the best thing would be if you have a retailer close enough that you can go get a little hands on time with at least some of the devices in question.
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Apologies for the length.

As the title says, it looks like my PRS-T1 died due to a battery issue. I'm trying everything to fix it before buying something new but I'm not hopeful of a good outcome.

I'm in Australia and the following look like my best options for a quick replacement;

Kobo Glo - $99 (refurbished but with full manufacturer warranty)
Kobo Aura2 - $169
Possibility of a Kobo GloHD - $189(Myers has it listed but not all stores have any in stock)

Kindle paperwhite - $169

A bit about my priorities and reading habits;

Works out of the box preferred - I don't like having to play around with firmware, add features, download apps etc just to get the thing to be usable.
The Kobo devices will update to the latest available firmware during the setup process.
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Dependability - no buggy firmware, no freezing up, no resets preferred.
Quickest page turns I can get - the PRS-T1 was always a bit slow for my liking but I got used to it. If I'm buying new hardware I might as well get as quick as I can.
That probably means the Kindle or using kepubs on the Kobo. But, personally the page turn for epubs on my Kobos is about the amount of time it takes to move my eyes from the bottom right of the screen to the top left.
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Ability to adjust font size, type, etc.
Kobos win here. But the Kindle has multiple fonts and sizes, so they are probably OK.
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Easy to use dictionary.
For the Kobos, long press on a word and the definition pops up. Pretty sure that the Kindle works the same. But, it is accepted that the Kindles have a much better dictionary than the Kobos.
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Solid build quality - I'm careful with my device but I don't want to have to wear cotton gloves and pack it in cotton wool when not in use.
All my Kobos are in one piece and I don't treat them with kid-gloves. I have no complaints on the build quality of any of them.
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Would like to get a quality protective cover for whichever one I buy, preferably not exorbitantly expensive.
I put 5-10 books on the reader at one time, read one and move on to the next. Don't do collections, groups etc. I usually delete the books off the device once read.
I don't use the cloud, I plug into the computer and load up books by using Calibre to "send to device". I have a wireless router and could use that but wireless is not hugely important to me and I'd probably prefer the way I'm used to.
My book collection is in epub format. I'm unlikely to read any of my current books again but could easily use Calibre to occasionally change the format of a book if need be.
Doing a conversion during the send is so simple, that it doesn't really matter about the format and the device.
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The price of any of them is not a worry but obviously the Glo is cheapest and that would be nice. I'd be having a good look at it to see what sort of condition it is in prior to purchase. Is there any obvious reason not to buy it if it's in good condition?
The only thing I can think of is the battery. They haven't made Glos for close to two years. That means the battery is at least two years old.
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Of the others;

I realise the Aura2 has a lower resolution than GloHD and PW, however I've found the 167ppi on the PRS-T1 fine so I imagine the Aura's 212 would be even better and perfectly fine for me. Of course more ppi is better though. ;-)
I've read that the light on the Aura is better than the one on the GloHD but maybe not as good as the PW.
I would have said the Glo HD had the better light than the PW. I haven't seen enough comments on the Aura Edition 2 to comment.
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I've read that the build quality of the GloHD may not be as good as the Aura.
I've read that the firmware on the GloHD has had problems and that the Aura2 is less buggy.
Kobo uses the same firmware on ALL of their recent ereaders. But, they haven't released the latest version to the Glo HD, only the two newest devices. They should be doing this soon. I have used all these firmware versions, and for general reading, they are the same. There were some problems with the newer firmware, but, for you usage, you probably wouldn't have seen them. These problems have been fixed and an update should be out soon.
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I've heard the Kobo doesn't really support epub but only Kepub so maybe no real benefit over the Kindle in terms of format anyway.
Please go back and tell whoever said that that they don't know what they are talking about. Kobo do full support of epub and they are using a much newer version of the Adobe RMSDK than your Sony is using. They have added features (image zoom, footnote popups) for their kepub renderer, but unless you use these, you won't notice them. You can use plugins in calibre to send the books as kepubs.
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I've read that the Kobo's in general are pretty slow with regards to page turns, opening books, etc but have no idea if that is simply an e-ink thing and if the PW is any faster.

If I had to rank them right now it'd be like this.....
1: Kobo Glo (cheapest and does what I need it to do)
2: Kobo Aura2 (due to reports of better light, better build quality, better firmware than GloHD and possibly better format support than the PW)
3: Kindle PW (due to Amazon proprietary formats, would happily move it up the list if the whole Kepub Vs epub thing means the Kobo is no better and if page turns are noticeably quicker than the Kobo's)
4: Kobo GloHD (Unless negative reports I've read have been greatly exaggerated and assuming I can find one in stock)

So, what's the consensus? Which would you all buy?
If I lost my Glo HD, I would rush out to find another.

I was very happy with my Glo. I still works, but the light doesn't. When I do pick it up, the screen is not as clear as the Glo HD, or the Aura H2O (you don't mention this, 6.8" waterproof). I wouldn't buy one now.

The Aura Edition 2 should have a better screen than the Glo. I've had a quick look at it, and it is nice, but I prefer the higher resolution.

I haven't used a Kindle of any sort outside a quick test in a shop, so I can't comment on the PW.
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Old 12-12-2016, 11:00 PM   #4
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I also think you can be happy with any of these devices. I prefer Kindles but that's because they're what I began with and I have a large library on Amazon. I get the 3G Kindles so I always have easy access to whatever I choose to read.

I have a Kobo Aura and I have had a Kobo Glo in the past. Both are very good. The Glo has an excellent screen. The Aura isn't as good but it's still just fine. I'm reading my current book on it. That's the original Aura, not the ones you've mentioned, which have better screens.

The dictionary on the Kindle is definitely better but the dictionary on the Kobo isn't bad at all. I do sometimes go to the Kindle if it's a pretty obscure word and it's handy when I'm reading on my Kobo, but that's not the common situation.

Kobo has more font adjustments but for myself Kindle has enough and I really don't care about that. And sometimes the Kobo fine tuning doesn't work on some sideloaded books. I've never been sure why. It usually works fine.

I've never had lockups or freezes on any of my readers. That's just not something you need to worry about unless you get a bad one. My neighbors and I have had a lot of Kindles and Kobos and they all hold up and they're all reliable.

None of the ones you've mentioned are going to be poor choices. They're all excellent.

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Just a +1 to what davidfor and Barry said.

Whichever one you buy you will likely be happy.

I'm leaning towards recommending the Kindle as I think that it fits your requirements best. The only items in your list where Kobo beats Kindle are in handling ePub and possibly fonts. (Your requirement wasn't clear. Kobo has MANY more font control options, but the Kindle can adjust font size and type.)

The rest, either Kindle beats Kobo or they tie. And the closest competition in your list is the Aura 2 and the Paperwhite at $169 and the Paperwhite has the higher res screen.

Not sure who wins at page turns. You can find comparison videos on YouTube, but I'm pretty sure they are the same.

If you are still on the fence, I say go cheap and buy the refurbed Glo. It has a warranty and is nearly half the price of the rest.

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Old 12-13-2016, 12:39 AM   #6
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I just left Amazon... got a Kobo Arua off ebay [open box] for $60! Ordered a case off Amazon got $12. I Love this thing! Last time I loved an Amazon was my K3 My eyes just couldn't see with out Light! I tried the PW2 & PW3 The lights on them are uneven Cones. The Font adjustment was a Huge jump from too tiny to too Big! The even backlight on Kobo Aura & the adjustment of size & weight Makes reading Just Right! I am back to reading on a eReader again! And Kobo Aura [6"] Has yet to vanquish the eBooks into the great unknown! They are there ready to read when I want to read them No Hunting & Not finding them.
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Yeah, there are good deals on the Aura on eBay. I bought mine there and several others have as well. You could pick one up for about $68AUD (if the conversion site I used was right). The seller says free shipping worldwide. I guess Australia is kind of the test of that. Aura on eBay
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I have a T1 and I moved to an H2O. After using a device with a Carta screen, I would not go with one that's a pearl screen. So that would leave out the Glo. If you can get the Glo HD, go for it. If not, go for the Aura Edition 2. One thing you will be able to do is you'll be able to use your ePub eBooks as is without the need to convert.

As to speed, the Kobo is not too slow at page turning. In fact, you will find a Glo HD or Aura E2 would be noticeably faster than the T1. Opening a book with a high-resolution cover on a T1 is dreadfully slow. I can turn the page and by the time I'm ready to read, the page is turned.

One thing you get on a Kobo vs a Kindle is that you get better typesetting as you don't need a special format to get such. You get ligatures, kerning, variable spaces, & hyphenation. To get something like that with a Kindle, you need KFX.

Oh and one other thing you get with a Kobo, you get collection management with Calibre. Calibre can create the collections for you and sort the books in the collections. You also get many more font size choices, more built-in fonts and you can use your own side loaded fonts as well.

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Get a new Sony T2/T3 from ebay. They're better than Kobos if you don't mind not having a light IMO.
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No, they are not better than Kobos. They are slow, the version of ADE is old, the screens are not as good as Carta screens. No front light. Not neary as many options. I have a T1 and I say this from experience. Do not go with another Sony. Go with a Kobo that has a Carta screen.
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No, they are not better than Kobos. They are slow, the version of ADE is old, the screens are not as good as Carta screens. No front light. Not neary as many options. I have a T1 and I say this from experience. Do not go with another Sony. Go with a Kobo that has a Carta screen.
That's your opinion. I've had a T1/2/3 and a Kobo Aura HD and a Kobo Glo HD. The Sony T2/3 are better than the Kobos I have used. Pearl screens are just as good as Carta screens if they don't come with the light layer. The Carta screen is necessary to compensate for the lessening in focus the light layer causes.

Sony just made better e-readers than Kobo, IMO.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm leaning toward the Kobo's over the Kindle simply due to epub support. Guess it's now off to have a play with the Aura2 and GloHD(assuming I can find one in stock).
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The hands-on is a great idea. Only you can say whether the very limited font/line spacing/margin choices on a Kindle will drive you up the wall or suit you fine, and whether the marginally slower page turns on a Kobo are slow enough to bother you. (Check with kepubs, not epubs.)

Kobos work fine out of the box, but have many more fine tuning options available than Kindles. If that's your jam, they're great - I love my H2O. If you want the "it just works" option with very limited fine tuning/collections management etc, Kindle could work for you too.
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(Check with kepubs, not epubs.)
I'd say check with whatever format(s) you plan to use. Checking with kePub's if you only ever plan to use ePub's would make no sense.
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Of course, if you're doing hands on in a store, there likely will be no option except for whatever format demonstration books are currently loaded on the device.

Honestly, there's probably too much worry about the page turning speed. When I've seen comparison between a Kindle Paperwhite and various Kobo models, the page turn speed has been about the same/too close to call.

On both my Nook STWG and my Kobo Aura, there might be a delay when initially opening a large book, but the page turn speed has been negligible. Less than the time it takes me to move my eyes back to the top of the page, as davidfor mentioned.
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