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Old 08-18-2015, 12:17 PM   #1
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Voyage and sideloaded/emailed books

I'm considering upgrading from KK to KV and I'm wondering about the treatment of sideloaded/emailed books. I am personally not interested in jailbreak solutions.

I believe that
  • The Kindle Collections Calibre plugin won't work.
  • Sideloaded books won't WhisperSync. (Source.)
  • Emailed books get categorized as "Docs" and may lose their covers. (Source.)

How else are sideloaded and emailed books treated differently than Amazon purchased books? Specifically,
  • Can I sort them into folders with Kindle's Cloud Collections? (A sideloaded book in a Cloud Collection?)
  • If I delete and reload that book, will it appear in the same Collection?
  • Can I access clippings/highlights/notes?

Has anyone mailed-in a large quantity of books? Is there a worry that Amazon wouldn't like that?

How's the KV UI for scrolling through large numbers of books?


Thanks!
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:40 PM   #2
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Yes, you can sort them into folders with Cloud Collections firmware, but the collections won't be synced.

I would expect deleting and reloading the book to retain the collections, as it does so on my Kindle Touch. But no promises.
At least on the older firmware, collections are not cleaned out until you reset the Content Catalog, e.g. logout and in again, or do a factory reset.

Annotations (highlights/bookmarks/notes/etc.) will work on sideloaded books, and when you delete a sideloaded book the annotations data is not deleted. (calibre's Delete From Device does a more thorough delete though.) I guess Amazon doesn't want you to lose your notes accidentally.
You must make sure the book is re-added to the exact same filepath. If sideloading with calibre, then depending on your filename save template certain metadata changes may impact the filename!



I don't believe Amazon has ever expressed their displeasure at people overusing their Personal Documents Storage, and they explicitly allowed you to have 5GB -- until changes with their Cloud Storage service, when they seem to have removed any limit whatsoever?
Anyway, I wouldn't worry.


I don't have a KV, so I will let someone who does have one respond, but I haven't heard any complaints about it's responsiveness.
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Old 08-18-2015, 01:19 PM   #3
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I'm considering upgrading from KK to KV and I'm wondering about the treatment of sideloaded/emailed books. I am personally not interested in jailbreak solutions.

I believe that
  • The Kindle Collections Calibre plugin won't work.
  • Sideloaded books won't WhisperSync. (Source.)
  • Emailed books get categorized as "Docs" and may lose their covers. (Source.)

How else are sideloaded and emailed books treated differently than Amazon purchased books? Specifically,
  • Can I sort them into folders with Kindle's Cloud Collections? (A sideloaded book in a Cloud Collection?)
  • If I delete and reload that book, will it appear in the same Collection?
  • Can I access clippings/highlights/notes?

Has anyone mailed-in a large quantity of books? Is there a worry that Amazon wouldn't like that?

How's the KV UI for scrolling through large numbers of books?


Thanks!
Personal docs emailed to your kindle via the Amazon cloud don't lose their covers if you send mobi files. On the Voyage itself, the same as the Paperwhites, personal document ebooks are treated just like any Amazon puchased book. They can be put in the same collections and will whispersync like any other book. It's only on the Fires that personal documents are treated a bit differently.

You can highlight personal documents the same as any Amazon ebook but you have to access the clippings on the Kindle itself (or some say you can sideload the clippings file onto your pc but I haven't tried that)

I use Amazon's Send to Kindle program to email my non Amazon ebooks to my Kindle via the Cloud. I have about 500 ebooks on my Voyage, most are personal documents.

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