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Ouch. That's not good for B&N.
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Not much of a surprise, though.
We knew they were up to their gills in STRs since the holiday season and you don't do BOGO deals with products that move on their own. They certainly didn't help themselves much by burying the STR with the Nook Glow. Flat reader adoption in the US + zero international presence + bad inventory management = Thank God for Microsoft's money. ![]() Otherwise, we'd be looking at a Chapter 11 reorg by now. The NewCo spinoff can't come fast enough now. |
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A friend of mine had a Nook. If he would have had good things to say about Barnes and Noble, I probably would have purchased a Nook as well. Instead, he had problems with it, and B&N's customer service was no help at all. He went into the store and talked to the manager. The manager called customer service, but even the manager couldn't get customer service to cooperate. The manager finally gave up screaming at customer service, and handed my friend a new Nook from the shelves.
He then returned it and bought a Kindle. I've heard nothing but good things about Amazon's customer service. The horror stories about Barnes and Noble's customer service turned me off. Perhaps Barnes and Noble's customer service has improved, I don't know. If it hasn't, they are really squandering the advantage of having a physical presence. |
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Its not all bad for BN.
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However, agency pricing might account for that. Post-DOJ settlement, BN may be less competitive in digital sales vs. Amazon. It looks like BN reading devices may be going the way of the dodo bird. Maybe Microsoft will take over future development of the Nook Tablet. Don't see them investing in e-ink devices though. |
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For B&N's Q4 2011 vs Q4 2012 (ending Apr 28) there was a majo differnce: although it operates 600+ reail stores, it was staring down a competitor (Borders) that at the time had 400+ stores. Since last summer, Borders has disappeared. You would think that previous Borders customers would give SOME lift to sales for Barnes and Noble. But, you'd be wrong. The comapny generated 0.4% (less one one-half of one percent) higher sales, year over year.
Nook division sales were DOWN to $164 million from $183 million. Of the $164 million, only $1 million represented "gross profit" and it cost them $78 million to sell that stuff ... for a net loss of $77 million. Nook division incorporates hardware and content sales related to Nook. This division is a huge sinkhole. And it is supposed to be the engine of growth that Microsoft wants a piece of. It is not hard to understand why Liberty Media back away from buying the comapny last year, opting for a $200 million preferred share investment. Those shares can be converted to voting shares at $17 each (ie abt 11.7 million shares). The stock is currently trading at $14.30 so that's a pretty rotten deal. Plus management apparently refused to give guidance for 2013. While some folks think B&N will be saved by embarking on an international investment program, it seems they really need to figure out how to make money at home first and build upon what, on paper, look like pretty good assets: good share of US ebook sales, the leading retail chain for paper books, a captive college audience on campuses, a celebrated eink and ereader tablet competitively priced ... but every quarter they can't seem to make the numbers work. This can't go on forever, even with angel investments from Liberty and Microsoft. |
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There are *two* surfaces, you know.
The WindSurf RT model is consumer focused. (Hint: bundled Office *HOME AND STUDENT*.) There's more to the consumer market than just media consumption. (Though the RT Surface will do that two, with its bundled SmartGlass app.) http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/smartglass The RT model is most likely coming with bundled Nook app too; they paid a nice chunk of change in return for a slice of the ebooks sold through it so they might as well use it. ![]() |
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I don't understand how the 4th quarter can be their slowest. I have given more kindles as gifts than anything else.
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Digital Book World had a different spin on this: http://www.digitalbookworld.com/2012...ontent-up-119/
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