A bit disappointed with writing on Eink

thinredline · 06-22-2011, 10:18 AM

Just got my PE a few days ago and still in the mode of installing and uninstalling apps

One of my expectation is to write on Eink like journal or to do list, but I found it's basically impractical to use it due to the lag and inaccuracy (it shows up slightly away from the place I want them to show up) even after calibration.

Any tips on how to write on Eink more smoothly would be appreciated.

obsessed2 · 06-22-2011, 10:36 AM

Are you running Dingo or Ermine? Many Edge owners have reported lag when using Dingo which is significantly reduced when using Ermine. Also, when you run the e-ink calibration do NOT hold the stylus at a 90 degree angle when touching the calibration points. Touch them naturally as if you are actually writing. Once you feel more comfortable with the writing in the Journal which I think works great, you may want to consider a better full size stylus. Here's a suggestion:

Wacom Penabled Pen like the Motion Computing LE1600 & LS800 Series. I personally own one of these and it is much better than the stock stylus. It feels much more natural.

http://www.compusa.com/applications/...?EdpNo=1433829

You can get this from CompUSA, TigerDirect, or Circuit City (one in the same). Plus, if you visit their websites often enough they offer $10 off coupons quite regularly so if you decide you do want to buy one wait until they offer you the coupon.

thinredline · 06-22-2011, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obsessed2

Are you running Dingo or Ermine? Many Edge owners have reported lag when using Dingo which is significantly reduced when using Ermine. Also, when you run the e-ink calibration do NOT hold the stylus at a 90 degree angel when touching the calibration points. Touch them naturally as if you are actually writing.

Good point. I hold my stylus 90 degrees doing the calibration. So that may explain why it miss the margin.

Does full sized Wacom Penabled Pen actually improve the writing experience or just make user feel comfortable?

obsessed2 · 06-22-2011, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinredline

Good point. I hold my stylus 90 degrees doing the calibration. So that may explain why it miss the margin.

Does full sized Wacom Penabled Pen actually improve the writing experience or just make user feel comfortable?

Both. The stock stylus is kind of small so for some people like myself it is a bit more difficult to write naturally with. The full sized Wacom Penabled pen is much more comfortable which in turn improves the writing experience, at least for me. Many other Edge users will attest to this as well. Check this out:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=wacom

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=wacom

emusan · 06-22-2011, 12:07 PM

depending on the type of paper you use it can affect the speed of the updating, I think lined works best, but it will be slower with something like the graph paper...

obsessed2 · 06-22-2011, 01:00 PM

Additionally, under Setting, Edge Settings, Journal Preferences you can change your default Pencil Thickness Preference and this may improve your writing. My son likes a Fine Pencil Thickness while Medium seems to work better for me. Also, ensure the Pencil Mode is set to None. You can also set the default Paper Style Preference from here as well.

sarah11918 · 06-22-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emusan

depending on the type of paper you use it can affect the speed of the updating, I think lined works best, but it will be slower with something like the graph paper...

Using just a blank background will give you the fastest speeds. Almost no lag at all. The rule of thumb is, the more there is in your background paper, the slower the writing will be. (Although I don't find any of them too slow to use.) So lined paper yields a quicker response than graph paper, but if you don't need lines, go naked!

emusan · 06-22-2011, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah11918

Using just a blank background will give you the fastest speeds. Almost no lag at all. The rule of thumb is, the more there is in your background paper, the slower the writing will be. (Although I don't find any of them too slow to use.) So lined paper yields a quicker response than graph paper, but if you don't need lines, go naked!

lol trust me, I /need/ lines, even with them my writing is horrid but without it starts to resemble a Picasso painting lol...

kennyminot · 06-30-2011, 10:43 AM

I like my paper unlined, just like my soul.

Don't ask what that means.

romanlutsk · 10-05-2011, 01:24 PM

I recently got PE and it keeps on amazing me with it's functionality and flexibility, especially after updated to Ermine.

However, the accuracy (place where ink appears vs. where the stylus was) when writing on the reader screen has gotten a lot worse after the upgrade - it was much better with the stock ROM. I even bought another PE just to compare the two.

I tried calibrating the screen several times, but it's all the same. Any other ideas?

Perhaps I didn't find the correct Ermine or there is a newer version? What file and where should I get?

Thanks a lot

exscentric · 10-05-2011, 04:54 PM

I found the response poor on the newer firmware as well. I've read on this site that if you calibrate with the stylus in a position as if you are going to write is better than if you have the stylus perpendicular. I've not tried it, just repeating :-)

Woody_in_MN · 10-06-2011, 09:27 AM

I guess my mileasge varied. I too was a bit disappointed. I recalibrated as suggested, and the accuracy is better. I do find it a bit slow in response though. I am running 2.2.

DianNC · 10-06-2011, 08:25 PM

On my PE the accuracy on the calendar is the best -- near perfect. I use it a lot for notes and stuff.

I also did that 'calibrate like you write' thing.

romanlutsk · 10-07-2011, 01:53 AM

Thanks for points. I've noticed that I had the option "shape maker" turned on in settings. That's what made it really slow. I unchecked it and it's almost the same speed as pre-Ermine. It's much better now, but the cursor position is still off and it varies depending on the location on the screen.

06-22-2011, 10:18 AM	#1
thinredline Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 165 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Kindle Keyboard, Pocket Edge, Nookd Simple Touch Glowlight, NGP	A bit disappointed with writing on Eink Just got my PE a few days ago and still in the mode of installing and uninstalling apps One of my expectation is to write on Eink like journal or to do list, but I found it's basically impractical to use it due to the lag and inaccuracy (it shows up slightly away from the place I want them to show up) even after calibration. Any tips on how to write on Eink more smoothly would be appreciated.

06-22-2011, 10:36 AM	#2
obsessed2 Wizard Posts: 1,041 Karma: 4694121 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Virginia Device: Pocket Edge X 2 , Edge, gTab, Kindle Fire, Nextbook 7S	Are you running Dingo or Ermine? Many Edge owners have reported lag when using Dingo which is significantly reduced when using Ermine. Also, when you run the e-ink calibration do NOT hold the stylus at a 90 degree angle when touching the calibration points. Touch them naturally as if you are actually writing. Once you feel more comfortable with the writing in the Journal which I think works great, you may want to consider a better full size stylus. Here's a suggestion: Wacom Penabled Pen like the Motion Computing LE1600 & LS800 Series. I personally own one of these and it is much better than the stock stylus. It feels much more natural. http://www.compusa.com/applications/...?EdpNo=1433829 You can get this from CompUSA, TigerDirect, or Circuit City (one in the same). Plus, if you visit their websites often enough they offer $10 off coupons quite regularly so if you decide you do want to buy one wait until they offer you the coupon. Last edited by obsessed2; 06-22-2011 at 10:53 AM.

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emusan lol Posts: 472 Karma: 1031 Join Date: May 2011 Device: eDGe	depending on the type of paper you use it can affect the speed of the updating, I think lined works best, but it will be slower with something like the graph paper...

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obsessed2 Wizard Posts: 1,041 Karma: 4694121 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Virginia Device: Pocket Edge X 2 , Edge, gTab, Kindle Fire, Nextbook 7S	Additionally, under Setting, Edge Settings, Journal Preferences you can change your default Pencil Thickness Preference and this may improve your writing. My son likes a Fine Pencil Thickness while Medium seems to work better for me. Also, ensure the Pencil Mode is set to None. You can also set the default Paper Style Preference from here as well.

06-30-2011, 10:43 AM	#9
kennyminot Groupie Posts: 183 Karma: 90022 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Louisville, KY Device: HTC EVO View 4G, HTC Wildfire S, Asus T91MT	I like my paper unlined, just like my soul. Don't ask what that means.

10-05-2011, 01:24 PM	#10
romanlutsk Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: PE	I recently got PE and it keeps on amazing me with it's functionality and flexibility, especially after updated to Ermine. However, the accuracy (place where ink appears vs. where the stylus was) when writing on the reader screen has gotten a lot worse after the upgrade - it was much better with the stock ROM. I even bought another PE just to compare the two. I tried calibrating the screen several times, but it's all the same. Any other ideas? Perhaps I didn't find the correct Ermine or there is a newer version? What file and where should I get? Thanks a lot

10-05-2011, 04:54 PM	#11
exscentric Addict Posts: 379 Karma: 1033424 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: WY Device: Kindle keyboard	I found the response poor on the newer firmware as well. I've read on this site that if you calibrate with the stylus in a position as if you are going to write is better than if you have the stylus perpendicular. I've not tried it, just repeating :-)

10-06-2011, 09:27 AM	#12
Woody_in_MN Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: none	I guess my mileasge varied. I too was a bit disappointed. I recalibrated as suggested, and the accuracy is better. I do find it a bit slow in response though. I am running 2.2.

10-06-2011, 08:25 PM	#13
DianNC Banned Posts: 1,431 Karma: 5222495 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Nook Color, Entourage Pocket Edge, iPod Touch 5th Gen	On my PE the accuracy on the calendar is the best -- near perfect. I use it a lot for notes and stuff. I also did that 'calibrate like you write' thing.

10-07-2011, 01:53 AM	#14
romanlutsk Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: PE	Thanks for points. I've noticed that I had the option "shape maker" turned on in settings. That's what made it really slow. I unchecked it and it's almost the same speed as pre-Ermine. It's much better now, but the cursor position is still off and it varies depending on the location on the screen.

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