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Old 07-02-2025, 01:04 PM   #16
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And here they don't even use ADE. It's proprietary apps only. Forget reading a library loan on eink, unless you have an Android eink device and install the app on it.
True here in Ireland too about not reading on eink. Their app worked for a while on eink Android 8, then updated and didn't work. Phone with exact same version of Android still worked. The App developer said that they were using a later Chrome component, that the phone updated to and the eink Android didn't. The actual Chrome Browser on eink seemed the same version. I won't risk buying an eink Android ever again for specific apps like the library (which is why I bought it during "lock down" and Libraries were closed).
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Old 07-02-2025, 01:14 PM   #17
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Thank you all very much. I'm not in the US, and removing the DRM isn't an option because the book is on loan. I assumed ADE meant the book was in PDF format, and since Kindle reads PDFs, it would be easy. ...
Just in case, if you downloaded the book in ADE and it is an EPUB, you most likely can strip the DRM. It may not be an option for you, but the DRM most likely can be stripped.
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Just in case, if you downloaded the book in ADE and it is an EPUB, you most likely can strip the DRM. It may not be an option for you, but the DRM most likely can be stripped.
It's not nice to strip DRM from library books. You don't own them.
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Old 07-02-2025, 01:56 PM   #19
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It's not nice to strip DRM from library books. You don't own them.
MobileRead is OK with stripping DRM from library books for the purpose of reading on your device, only. It's understood that the book won't be shared and that it will be deleted on completion, in a timely manner.
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It's not nice to strip DRM from library books. You don't own them.
Does owning it make a difference? I don't own the roads but I use them. I don't own the fire department, but if I need them I will use them. ...
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Thanks for the advice. I don't know how to remove the DRM, and I'm afraid Adobe Reader or the library will find out and take my card away, so I'll just leave it like this.
Relying on the user to remove it seems a bit naive to me. In my country, they'd call you a fool for removing it when you can keep it (instead of calling it piracy, they'd call it indigenous malice).
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Does owning it make a difference? I don't own the roads but I use them. I don't own the fire department, but if I need them I will use them. ...
Yes, it does. You are not comparing like with like. Even so you can't repaint the road or dig it up or add signs.
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Thanks for the advice. I don't know how to remove the DRM, and I'm afraid Adobe Reader or the library will find out and take my card away, so I'll just leave it like this.
Relying on the user to remove it seems a bit naive to me. In my country, they'd call you a fool for removing it when you can keep it (instead of calling it piracy, they'd call it indigenous malice).
Removing DRM is pretty much undetectable, but really don't bother with it if you're not that keen on it. Legality of it is indeed dubious. Then again so is advertising availability of e-books on e-readers, if they're then available only on a few specific e-readers.
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Old 07-02-2025, 05:52 PM   #24
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Does owning it make a difference? I don't own the roads but I use them. I don't own the fire department, but if I need them I will use them. ...
Do you take the roads home and keep a copy of them? Does the fire department know that you plan to clone them and their equipment to keep at home?

To me, owning an ebook (for those values of own allowed by the license agreements forced on me) is different from borrowing an ebook.

I do not remove DRM from library books, Kindle Unlimited (KU), Kobo Plus (K+) or other loaned materials. Partly due my feelings about staying as close to legal as possible and partly due to, as Oscar Wilde put it, "I can resist anything except temptation". After all, once I have the ebook stripped of DRM and in my library, I just might want to re-read it later so who am I hurting by keeping it around. Add in any other sophistries you care to think up.

I know many do not agree with my opinion on DRM removal but that's life.
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Yes, it does. You are not comparing like with like. Even so you can't repaint the road or dig it up or add signs.
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Do you take the roads home and keep a copy of them? Does the fire department know that you plan to clone them and their equipment to keep at home?

To me, owning an ebook (for those values of own allowed by the license agreements forced on me) is different from borrowing an ebook.

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IMO, they are alike enough; they are all services that my town provides for me.
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What time of day do prefer for repainting the lines on the road?
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What time of day do prefer for repainting the lines on the road?
That is a service provided by the town/state. Who does the line painting where you live?
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I know many do not agree with my opinion on DRM removal but that's life.
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