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Originally Posted by stustaff
Maybe I dont understand open source then
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No, it's evident you don't.
Open Source is about
software licensing, hardware openness is related but not identical, and certainly not a prerequisite.
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which of those devices is open or uses open software Id love to know which of those manufacturers licence the entire operating system under an open licence.
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Erm, the Sony Readers, the Kindle and the Nook are all Linux-powered. Also, you mentioned Sony TV's: They're Linux-based. Routers, ADSL and cable modems, mobile phones, cable boxes, NAS, and TVR's and a host of other home devices are linux-powered. And that's just Linux, there's plenty of other open source software out there.
Netcraft says that Mobileread is running under Apache (open source) on Linux. The forum software Mobileread uses, PhpBB, is open source - and that works off the open lisence (although non-copyleft) php scripting system alongside the open source MySQL (or maybe Postgres SQL, same difference).
Also, Nintendo and Sony console development is
utterly dependent on open-sourced tools, as are the vast majority of even closed-source projects today (I think you can figure out why that's not true for the 360, lol - and even then there are some handy open source tools and things like DVCS systems are all open source...).