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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel
the former.  despite all the hype, i really don't think von trier is all that profound or subversive. i think he's basically just a sociopath with deep misogynistic tendencies who has found a questionably "artistic" substitute for the actual torture he wishes he could inflict on real people directly without any intermediary.
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Well, I may agree that he's probably not that profound or subversive. But I don't think that's where he shines either. That's all a part of the content of his films, which I rarely find interesting. For me he is using the film media as material, and twisting it to see what he/it can do. There's no authenticity in his films imho. Just examinations of the media itself and not least its relation to the viewer.