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Old 10-18-2023, 02:03 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Noirtier View Post
I was just testing out the "Polish books" feature for the first time, and noticed that it replaced double hyphens with em-dash, even if there are spaces to either side of them. [...]

I.e.:

"...text -- text..." → "...text – text..."
"...text--text..." → "..text—text..."

Maybe there are other conventions/preferences over this, but it would be very much appreciated if there was at least an option to use en-dashes instead of em-dashes.
DiapDealers's fantastic plugins can already do this:

Once you install it, you can get multiple options in a dropdown:
  • (em|en)-dash settings
    • Do not educate dashes
    • -- = emdash (no endash support)
    • -- = emdash | --- = endash
    • --- = emdash | -- = endash

The 4th one is exactly what you want to have enabled.

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Originally Posted by rjwse@aol.com View Post
I use en dash and em dash quite a bit. [...] I found out to my horror from a prior post reply that Amazon will not recognize the em dash, so I fudge it by 'running together' 3 regular dashes with a span whose spacing has been reduced. I use the triple sometimes to surround page numbers at bottom of PDF pages.

[...]

I use the triple dash like this for mid-chapter centered scene breaks: em dash space scene space em dash.
No. The two rare dash characters:
  • U+2E3A = ⸺ = TWO-EM DASH
  • U+2E3B = ⸻ = THREE-EM DASH

should not be used like that.

Instead, it's better to create those lines via CSS. That was one of the first questions I asked MobileRead wayyyy back in:

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Side Note: If you want to know the proper use-cases for two + three em dashes, see my post in:

Long story short:
  • 2-em dash is for "missing text".
  • 3-em dash is for "same exact author" in Bibliographies.

I also strongly recommend against using those 2 dash characters, because of all the missing font + problematic rendering issues. Instead, use the equivalent amount of normal EM DASHes.

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Originally Posted by rjwse@aol.com View Post
It's the extra long dash that won't show correctly in kindle previewer. I quit (more or less) using it from advice on mobileread.
Yep, exactly. Barely any fonts have those 2 rarer dash characters, and it will cause more trouble than it solves.

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Originally Posted by rjwse@aol.com View Post
I break USA convention (if, indeed, those rules still apply) by separating like this: text space en dash space text. That is, I do not allow the en dash to touch text (as is the convention). I find that it is even worse looking when done as follows: text comma en dash space text. This was done frequently a century ago by many authors. Or, maybe the type setter did this. I use the triple dash like this for mid-chapter centered scene breaks: em dash space scene space em dash.
You may also be interested in all the dash discussion back in:

I cover all the use-cases + spaced vs. non-spaced versions (American vs. British, Chicago vs. Other Style Guides), etc., etc.

Last edited by Tex2002ans; 10-18-2023 at 02:06 PM.
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