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Old 08-12-2015, 11:49 PM   #61
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And if I had suggested you should know about him because he is a top seller, then maybe I could understand what you are trying to say.

Instead, I was implying that as the poster boy for indie publishing, I am surprised you haven't heard of him -- since you can often be found in threads like, um this one?

Threads discussing the state of publishing and self-publishing rarely include romance rankings -- but Howey and Konrath get quoted as gospel.
One would almost think you had no interest in or knowledge of the self-publishing industry



Correct -- the top-selling tradpub authors would be the ones who sell in every airport newsstand, to people who don't usually read, and everywhere else on the planet. No indie will ever make as many sales (or money) as the James Patterson Collective, for example.

Comparing a fairly successful high-end midlister genre author to a fairly successful high-end indie genre author seems fair enough to me, no one except you has implied that anyone thinks indies are expected to reach that one-in-a-million author whose books personally get handed out for causal gifts at the same rate as gift cards.


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I could go on for longer, but there is only so many times you can type the word "vast" before getting sick and tired of it.

I think that the word you are looking for is didn't remember him, rather than didn't hear of him. I'm sure the top romance authors gets mentioned in thread here as well. It doesn't mean I pay much attention to them. There are a couple of indies that have been recommended on this board that I have tried, liked and bought their books. He just isn't one of them.

Well, perhaps you wouldn't expect an indie to compare well with one in a million (though a million probably isn't correct. How many authors publish books with traditional publishers in a year. It's got to be far less than 100,000.) But I would have expected the top indie to be in the top 100 of Kindle sales. That's leaving aside all the paper book, audiobook, etc sales, just the ebook sales. If indies aren't in the top 100 in the Kindle store, that says something to me.

The comparison to the top traditional publisher seller was simply to show how big of a difference there still is between traditional publishers and indies. Sometimes the hype doesn't quite match the reality.
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