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Originally Posted by Faterson

Thank you for the link. That's a great thread on "footnotes in EPUB". If Google was truly smart, it would return that thread as the very first search result. But it does not (perhaps because it's in the "Sigil" sub-forum and does not mention footnotes in the thread title at all).

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PS: I'm not sure myself how I ended up finding this thread, but I'm sure glad I found it before starting to fiddle with non-standard coding. All I know is I didn't get here by browsing MobileRead forums normally, but Google sent me in this neighborhood in one way or another. Thanks to Psymon for launching the thread (the keywords in the thread title hit the mark, too).

I really need to stop typing/digitizing so much, and start going back and organizing my older posts, and organizing helpful topics as I run across them. There is so much written here (by me and others), that covers nearly everything under the sun. For those of us who sit here and read every topic, every day, for years, you just slowly absorb all the knowledge.

I do have a few posts now that I point to, which leads to a "pyramid" of helpful links (pointing to other great topics, which leads to more, etc. etc.). But I don't want to flood THIS topic with that as well.

Willus did something similar over here, trying to gather info dedicated towards converting PDF:

http://willus.com/k2pdfopt/pdf_conversion.shtml

Maybe this might be my kick in the butt to finally split off and make my own site/page/blog. :P

Originally Posted by Faterson

I think Google typically sends everyone to Liz Castro's blog article instead, where she seems to be encouraging everyone to start using "EPUB 3-specific" (that's what it amounts to) coding to generate popup footnotes.

BLEH! Typically when I do a lot of EPUB searches, her site shows up, but then MobileRead not too far after... and guess where I then go to learn the ACTUAL info?

Now, I typically just type in "site:mobileread.com" after my searches.

Originally Posted by Hitch

Even her formidable tome on ePUB (Straight to the Point) is pretty much all Apple, All the Time. I still recommend it, because to my mind, it's the best "primer" out there for newbs, even some years later (e.g., "what's an OPF?"), but the Google results are, indeed, frustrating.

BLEHHHH... I highly recommend AGAINST the book. It was maybe 75% InDesign + iBooks, with MAYBE 25% useful info (being generous here). Just WAYYYYY too Adobe/Apple-centric for my tastes.

So you won't see me recommending that book to anyone. I would much rather point them over to topics.... and while a pyramid of links is not as neatly organized, or as "user-friendly" as that book, you would learn a heck of a lot more.

Also, while you might not find a SPECIFIC answer to your problem, you might absorb a lot of side information from all of the side notes/little chats we all have between eachother. (For example, doing footnotes as [##] instead of superscript). This sort of stuff can solve an answer to a question you didn't even know you had!

Side Note: Although perhaps it is my anti-Apple/Adobe bias... I nearly dislike everything under the sun by both companies. Also, it could have been by the time I went to look at that book, I was already doing/creating the EPUBs, so most of the info was not useful to me in the slightest. Also, it could have been me looking for a much more technical-focused book, than her readers are/were, perhaps I am just the wrong demographic.

Originally Posted by Faterson

I'm afraid, though, that it's too early for epub:type="noteref" and epub:type="footnote", too, in terms of general acceptance. Sigh. Liz Castro sounded ecstatic about them back in May 2012, but it doesn't look like they've gained any sort of traction to speak of since then.

Well, similar to a lot of the HTML5 stuff. It sounds great on paper, but in the actual nitty-gritty, you are going to have all the different browsers handling it SLIGHTLY differently (so you are going to have to code browser-specific code), and then you have A TON of people using browsers that don't even handle HTML5 (or only a very small subset). Even recently, my friend implemented some minor rounded corners on his site. There was even a breakage in how the corners were dealt with between Firefox + Chrome.

It will probably be another decade before some of that stuff starts getting adopted by the vast majority of sites. I mean, FINALLY, the death of IE6 is coming!