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Old 04-02-2011, 11:42 AM   #212
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Originally Posted by iandix View Post
Just saying "no it's not" all the time and refusing to answer direct questions, will not win any debate.

Is it legal to strip DRM from library books (books you don't own)?
Do you keep copies of said books?
Do you delete these books after 21 days (or less, depending how long you borrowed these books)?

Have you sent a letter to the library and publishers telling them what you are doing? if not... why not ..if it's legal you have nothing to fear. I would love to see their reply to your copyright violations.
is it legal to not sit backwards on a donkey, and whistle Dixie every other week in Patagonia? it's like proving a negative. you can rarely prove a legal unless it has been tested in court. our closest court test is personal use, and all of that information has been presented in the other thread I have referred to continuously.

I do not keep copies of ebooks. it is not incumbent upon me to contact publishers regarding my personal use of any printed material

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Originally Posted by Asawi View Post
Illegal or not, it's against library rules, if that is of any importance at all (I'm guessing "no" here...).

(I take it somewhere along my membership process I agree to follow the rules...)

Either way, you can't expect the library to tell you "oh yes, you can read our books on the Kindle if you do this, this and this. It's breaking the rules, but since the rules are stupid anyway ...", and after all, that's what all this started with. A library trying to teach people how to use their service.

Excerpts of Overdrive copyright notice from FLP (Philadelphia) site (highlights by me):

Headline: Important Notice about Copyrighted Materials
<snip>
The Content and any other copyrighted material may not be modified, ...
<snip>
You will not redistribute, transmit, assign, sell, broadcast, rent, share, lend, modify, adapt, edit...
<end of excerpts>
this is a personal use law. you also live in a different country. different laws.

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Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
Why is it you refuse to answer my questions? Is it because if you did, you would have to say that it is not OK to strip the DRM from library eBooks and thus your entire argument that yes you can read library eBooks with a Kindle has just been flushed down the toilet?
do you actually have a question or are you simply engaged in Sony rattling?
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