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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan
Uh... we were on-topic once? 
As far as legal gun ownership curtailing criminal violence, so does video surveillance (ask London and Baltimore). There are ways to cut back on gun violence besides arming the populace.
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And let me tell you Steve...you are wrong about the cameras.
There is nothing more disgusting to me, more liberty-crushing, more saddening to my heart as an American than seeing cameras run by the (local) government pointing at the people and armed soldiers at the airport.
It is...surreal. They have these...buses here that they have converted into "moble task force police station" things...they block streets and LITERALLY stop citizens asking for ID as they leave or enter neighborhoods.
"Trek Passes" anyone?
This is not some tinfoil hat conspiracy theory nonsense...I have seen it with my own eyes.
In "high crime neigborhoods" they have Police lights on high poles that flash almost constantly...cameras in these residential neighborhoods.
It is not a model of ANYTHING but insanity.
And yet, daily...someone is murdered. Hmmm.
It pains me to think that people really believe that liberty is such a thing that should so easily be cast aside. What's worse, the least powerful people in the city are the ones subjected to this...indignity.