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Old 09-18-2010, 03:29 AM   #1
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K3 chinese font support spotty?

Hi everyone,

I am just wondering if any international owners are having the same kind of issue as me.

I got a K3 on firmware 3.0 (515460094) and when I read traditional Chinese mobi and txt files, approximately 10% of the letter doesn't show up (shows up as a square, missing character). I checked the file on my PC and they are fine. The text file I can confirm as unicode UTF-8. The mobi is a traditional chinese EPUB that I made converted with Calibre. Calibre can read it no problem.

I heard that K3 is having some problem with Korean font too?

It should be a software issue, but I am not sure if I am the only one or not.

thanks,
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Old 09-18-2010, 05:25 AM   #2
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Are the missing characters, the ones that are different in simplified characters? Maybe they only included simplified characters? Wouldn't make any sense though if they are working with Unicode. I don't have a K3 myself to try out.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:01 AM   #3
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Are the missing characters, the ones that are different in simplified characters? Maybe they only included simplified characters? Wouldn't make any sense though if they are working with Unicode. I don't have a K3 myself to try out.
K3 does support both traditional and simplified chinese. It's in the specifications. The traditional text I used, the text does show up as traditional and not simplified, but some common character seems to drop out. I haven't tried a simplified Chinese so I can't comment on that.

I think I get what you mean because I know that one simplified chinese character usually covers more letters than a traditional character. So your guess that perhaps it's missing that "extra" covered character. However, I don't think it's the case..
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:24 AM   #4
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Do you have any sample for testing?
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Old 09-18-2010, 01:54 PM   #5
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I heard that K3 is having some problem with Korean font too?
I don't think there are any problems with it actually displaying (not that I've heard, anyway), it's just that the font is hideous.
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Old 09-18-2010, 03:38 PM   #6
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Hi Kanru,

I have included the text file I used here. This is dl'ed from big5.qidian.com and I have made sure it's UTF-8.

You should notice those "squares" for missing character on almost every page.

anyone else who's a chinese reader wtih K3 give it a try. It would be greately appreciated.

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Old 09-18-2010, 08:11 PM   #7
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Can you or somebody else provide a screen shot using K3?
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:00 PM   #8
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I experienced the same thing as well. After trying different conversion tools but failed, I sent the UTF-8 txt files to "name"@free.kindle.com and they all got converted properly, both Simplified and Traditional. But the titles still may show boxes. Seems like their 'native support' is not exactly what I had in mind.

I don't recall seeing the following when I ordered the K3, but now K3's description on Amazon has the following:
"Support for Non-Latin Characters
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To view your personal documents with non-Latin characters on your Kindle, send your file as a Microsoft Word document (DOC) attachment to your Kindle's e-mail address ("name"@free.kindle.com)...Loading TXT files containing non-Latin characters over USB is currently not supported as some characters may not display properly."
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:31 AM   #9
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Maybe it's just the font has not enough characters.

Because on my Kindle DXG w/ Font Hack the sample file renders pretty well.
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:03 AM   #10
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Press any keys in Home UI, then it will show Search box.

1. Type ;debugOn , press Enter key
2. Type ~changeLocale zh-CN , press Enter key
3. Restart Kindle in Settings

Should be fine to show simplified Chinese.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:53 PM   #11
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OK. I think the myth is busted.

According to http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/MOBI there is a “locale” field in the mobi header record. By default if the metadata doesn't specify the locale, it is set to “0x0009”. But a .mobi created by Amazon or Mobipocket the field is set to “0x0404” correctly for Traditional Chinese (zh-tw), or “0x0804” for Simplified Chinese (zh-cn).

I have tried to make Calibre output the correct locale and it works! Try add a metadata <dc:language>zh-tw</dc:language> to the epub file then convert again.
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:11 PM   #12
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Hallo Kanru, could you explain in details the steps?

For example, I have a chinese pdf that I see correctly on the Kindle 3, but I want to convert it into a mobi file...Obviously it shows many "boxes" as discussed.

- When Calibre converts the pdf in mobi, in the directory I can see the metadata.opf file with the <dc:language tag>. But at this point I think it's too late: the conversion already has been done. Am I right?

- If I look into the mobi file (hexadecimal) I can see the 0xFD09 (65001 = UTF-8) locale bytes

- How can I tell Calibre to convert the file using the correct locale as you suggested?
There's a place where I can force it?

Many many thanks!

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Old 10-29-2010, 01:19 AM   #13
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...Needn't anymore...I decided to do the fonts Hack...Xie xie
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:37 AM   #14
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Use the locale hack would solve the issue.

Why the "send to device" by Calibre action corrupts the file is still a mystery.
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Old 11-01-2010, 02:13 PM   #15
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As told, with the fonts hack all now is working properly and the hack install is quick and easy.

Many thanks to NiLuJe and the other people that prepared all the packages!
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