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Old 09-17-2010, 11:35 AM   #1
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hi! i seem to have hit a wall that i cannot manage to climb on my own so i am asking for help here i've been looking for a fix for the past few days but can't seem to figure this one out.

i've been using calibre for ages now, and love it so very much, but i have been running into some metadata issues with the last few versions.

i use a sony 505 and i want the file names to show up as i label them. just as i write it. no metadata. they show up fine in calibre. they show up fine everywhere except on my reader and i can't seem to figure out how to fix it this time.

i think the problem first showed up when the author_sort tweaks were added. i got rid of the tweaks for and deselected everything that i could find that might be causing the problem (i figured out how to fix things with the faq thread in this forum) and my file names went back to looking just as i wanted them to on the sony, but after the most recent update things are screwy again and i have books showing up with all sorts of crazy titles on the reader.

i really really don't want to individually edit the metadata for each file since there are 70+ titles that are showing up wrong. i just want it to read the filename from the actual filename, and i thought i had it set to do so but apparently not.

i must be missing something somewhere but i am not sure what it is.

help!
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:40 AM   #2
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:45 AM   #3
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If I understand your question, I think the problem is that you are not overwriting the metadata which is what your Sony reads. After you have used Calibre to fix the information you want fixed, convert the book. You can use the same format, but this will permanently overwrite the metadata that your reader processes.

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Old 09-17-2010, 11:50 AM   #4
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My guess is that you haven't seen the tweak 'save_template_title_series_sorting'. It could be the source of your problem, but as you don't give any concrete examples, I can't be sure.

The tweak documentation is:
Code:
# Control how title and series names are formatted when saving to disk/sending
# to device. If set to library_order, leading articles such as The and A will
# be put at the end
# If set to 'strictly_alphabetic', the titles will be sorted without processing
# For example, with library_order, "The Client" will become "Client, The". With
# strictly_alphabetic, it would remain "The Client".
save_template_title_series_sorting = 'library_order'
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:03 PM   #5
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i had to take out all the tweaks to make it play nice and have my titles the way i want them.

so no tweaks on. it is set to read metadata from file name.

it's not even metadata, really, these are txt files i am having issues with. for example: i have a txt file that is labeled anne bishop - jewels 00 - the invisible ring. it shows up properly in calibre, in the sony library, but it shows up as ---------------------- on my reader. i just want it to show up as titled.

it used to show up just fine, before i updated calibre this past time.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:20 PM   #6
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i had to take out all the tweaks to make it play nice and have my titles the way i want them.
Note that the default value of the tweak I mentioned is 'mess with the file name'
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it is set to read metadata from file name.
What exactly is set to read metadata from filename? The sony doesn't have that option.
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it's not even metadata, really, these are txt files i am having issues with. for example: i have a txt file that is labeled anne bishop - jewels 00 - the invisible ring. it shows up properly in calibre, in the sony library, but it shows up as ---------------------- on my reader. i just want it to show up as titled.

it used to show up just fine, before i updated calibre this past time.
I confess to confusion. What does 'labeled' mean? Are you referring to a file name? If so, is that the name of the file on your Sony, or somewhere else?

If I understand you correctly, you have at least one txt file on your reader for which the reader displays ------------------ as the title. There isn't any obvious reason why that should happen, tweaks or otherwise, and (obviously) I can't see your reader, so to fix it you must do the typing.

Question 0: what version of calibre are you running? On what O/S & version?
Question 1: you haven't changed firmware? To use, for example, PRS+?
Question 2: what is the full path name *on the sony* for one of these txt files?
Question 3: what does the sony's database entry for the file look like? To check this, and assuming you are running windows, open the file database/cache/media.xml found on your sony's main memory. Use wordpad. Don't save the file back.
Question 4: does this happen to all txt files? And only txt files?
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:54 PM   #7
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sorry if i am not being clear enough! thanks for the patience


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Note that the default value of the tweak I mentioned is 'mess with the file name'
What exactly is set to read metadata from filename? The sony doesn't have that option.
calibre is, not the sony. but the files were not showing up mislabeled on the sony until the most recent update of calibre.

I confess to confusion. What does 'labeled' mean? Are you referring to a file name? If so, is that the name of the file on your Sony, or somewhere else?
i just mean the file name. the name of the file on the sony. on the computer. wherever.

If I understand you correctly, you have at least one txt file on your reader for which the reader displays ------------------ as the title. There isn't any obvious reason why that should happen, tweaks or otherwise, and (obviously) I can't see your reader, so to fix it you must do the typing.
i have multiple txt files that are showing up oddly. maybe 70. i prefer basic txt. they were showing up fine on the reader until this last update, now they are not. i had run into this issue before, several updates ago but managed to fix it on my own with help from the faq. i avoided updating calibre 2 times but figured i would update it again with this most recent update and sure enough the problem is back. this time i can't seem to figure it out. of course we did uninstall the software last time, so maybe i need to do that again.

Question 0: what version of calibre are you running? On what O/S & version?
0.7.18, on windows xp pro
Question 1: you haven't changed firmware? To use, for example, PRS+?
no changes
Question 2: what is the full path name *on the sony* for one of these txt files?
i'm not sure what you are looking for here. how do i find the path name?
Question 3: what does the sony's database entry for the file look like? To check this, and assuming you are running windows, open the file database/cache/media.xml found on your sony's main memory. Use wordpad. Don't save the file back.
i think this is the anne bishop one...
Spoiler:
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Question 4: does this happen to all txt files? And only txt files?
not all, and mostly. there are some mislabeled rtf's as well, but mainly txt files.
i hope that helps...
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Well, that is truly strange. Unfortunately the sony database agrees exactly with what you say is happening. Something (probably the reader) is messing with the titles.

I have one theory. Sony's have terrible problems with timezones. The reader thinks it knows what timezone it is in and messes with the times. Sometimes calibre cannot determine what the timezone is, and so it gets into a fight with the sony. The sony wins, changing the metadata to whatever it wants it to be. It uses some strange method for text files, sometimes looking into the file to get the first text, sometimes using the file name. I am almost certain that this is what is happening to you.

The easiest way to fix this problem is to switch calibre to automatic metadata management (preferences -> send to device -> metadata management). In that mode, every time you connect your reader to calibre, it will correct the title, author, and collections without needing to make reference to the timezone. However, there is a potential problem. In automatic mode, calibre will take control of your collections. Any collections you entered by hand or with Sony Reader SW will be deleted. New collections will be made from the metadata you specify in the device plugin (default: tags & series). If this is OK, then I think your title/author problem will go away.
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