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Old 11-18-2009, 04:06 PM   #1
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Anyone read computer books on e-readers?

Hi

I am thinking of getting this ereader: http://www.aluratek.com/product_info...02&display=All

Now one of my main reasons for having a e-reader would be to put computer books on it. Seeing how big computer books are to log around, I don't like reading them on computers, they go obsolete pretty fast.

However most of them are pdf format what I hear is not too good for small screen like an e-reader. So anyone ever read computer books on e-readers? Is it good? Is there better formats then pdf(that pdf can convert to)

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Old 11-18-2009, 04:27 PM   #2
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Hi

I am thinking of getting this ereader: http://www.aluratek.com/product_info...02&display=All

Now one of my main reasons for having a e-reader would be to put computer books on it. Seeing how big computer books are to log around, I don't like reading them on computers, they go obsolete pretty fast.

However most of them are pdf format what I hear is not too good for small screen like an e-reader. So anyone ever read computer books on e-readers? Is it good? Is there better formats then pdf(that pdf can convert to)

Thanks
I've read (Actually I *am* reading.) a Photoshop Layers book on my Kindle 2. And it's 'okay' for doing so. Most of the images in the book are small enough that they look decent on a 6" e-ink screen. However, most computer books are formatted in PDF that is designed for A4 or Letter sized paper, which means that withoug constant zooming, panning and scrolling, they don't look so good.

For computer and other large-size texts, I think a Kindle DX or one of those iRex iLiads would be better. The screens are much larger.

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Old 11-18-2009, 04:33 PM   #3
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I've read (Actually I *am* reading.) a Photoshop Layers book on my Kindle 2. And it's 'okay' for doing so. Most of the images in the book are small enough that they look decent on a 6" e-ink screen. However, most computer books are formatted in PDF that is designed for A4 or Letter sized paper, which means that withoug constant zooming, panning and scrolling, they don't look so good.

For computer and other large-size texts, I think a Kindle DX or one of those iRex iLiads would be better. The screens are much larger.

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Is that book made for the kindle? Since I am guessing books that are made to be on the kindle are checked to make sure it looks half decent at least.

Hmm that really sucks. How about converting pdfs(even though I hear that is hard to do). Is there some good format that will work with computer books.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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I've tried on my Kindle 2, it didn't work for me. Screen is too small.

I recommend the larger size screens, if you can swing it.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:52 PM   #5
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I copied my user's manuals for both my camera and my laptop; I have them both on 8.5 x 11 pages, in sheet protectors and in 3-ring binders. There was no problem reformating the two manuals using Calibri to epub. However they were just too big to read on my Sony 700. So they got deleted real quick. Saw no reason to keep them on my reader.
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:26 AM   #6
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I tried to read MS Server 2003, pdf converted to lrf with pdflrf...gave up. Unpleasant.
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:50 AM   #7
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I read them on a Sony PRS-600 6inch screen reader. As mentioned before most books are pdf format. Main problem is that quite some books have a larger border and forces you to either zoom/pan or reflow. Typical I first try the reflow method but you loose some graphics in that case (not always a problem).
Best would be to have the books in another format or have a larger screen.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:03 AM   #8
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Would a netbook be a better answer for reading computing books?

I say that because hubby was interested in an ereader for his computing books (works in IT) but he has used my sony 600 with 6 inch screen and it really is too small for books of that nature. I think you would maybe need a 10 inch screen or bigger really so a netbook might be a consideration.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:13 AM   #9
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Would a netbook be a better answer for reading computing books?

I say that because hubby was interested in an ereader for his computing books (works in IT) but he has used my sony 600 with 6 inch screen and it really is too small for books of that nature. I think you would maybe need a 10 inch screen or bigger really so a netbook might be a consideration.
The problem is the screen. Some people, like me, cannot read from computer screen for a long time. Also battery life is an issue, although with netbooks it is not too bad.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:31 AM   #10
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I'd get either a netbook, a larger LCD based mobile device or a larger e-ink screen. I'd say the minimum size would be 9". The advantage of e-ink screens is battery life. The advantage of LCD based mobile devices or netbooks is the colour screens.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:39 AM   #11
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If one has the source and can re-format for the screen size, this works quite well --- I've got a number of LaTeX references on my PRS-505 as .pdfs and they work fine.

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One thing you've really got to watch out for, especially with books on programming, is the formatting of code listings.

With printed books, the author will usually take care to ensure that the line breaks within program code occurs at sensible places. But that doesn't always get transferred to the e-book. I've seen cases where program code just flows like normal text, regardless of the semantics of the code or the occurrence of continuation markers. In other cases, the code simply gets truncated, especially on a small-screen device.

Also, some publishers don't realise that code has to be rendered in a fixed-pitch font. This is never a problem with paper books, but is sometimes an issue with e-books.

I'm not saying all programming books suffer from these problems -- just that they are issues you need to watch out for.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:44 AM   #13
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Is that book made for the kindle? Since I am guessing books that are made to be on the kindle are checked to make sure it looks half decent at least.
If you read more threads on MR you'll find many saying that you're wrong. Mostly in the idea that they're *checked* to make sure they look good. As I understand it (I don't have a Kindle) if the source is well-written (from a technical standpoint) then the conversion produces a decent-looking book. But AFAIK nobody actually checks the output to see how good it looks.

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Hmm that really sucks. How about converting pdfs(even though I hear that is hard to do). Is there some good format that will work with computer books.
As others have mentioned, the basic problem with technical books on ereaders is the size of the screen. Even in full 8.5"x11" technical books I often find graphics that are too full of detail for me to read them. Often I copy/enlarge them (usually onto 11"x17" because I've got a copier that can do that).

With a large enough screen PDF should be a decent format-but I can't find an ereader with a large enough screen, for me, so I read technical books either on my workstation (28" screen) or, if I need them to be mobile, on my laptop (17" screen).

BTW, I don't understand your comment "I don't like reading them on computers, they go obsolete pretty fast". The only difference I see between reading them on computers vs reading them on ereaders is mobility & display. I would certainly agree if you're talking about reading treebooks-anything that requires frequent updating is, IMO, best obtained electronically.
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I've been reading computer books on my iphone. Not the best experience ever, but it works.

I recommend getting epubs from http://oreilly.com if those are some you're interested in. There's also the practical programmer.
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Would a netbook be a better answer for reading computing books?

I say that because hubby was interested in an ereader for his computing books (works in IT) but he has used my sony 600 with 6 inch screen and it really is too small for books of that nature. I think you would maybe need a 10 inch screen or bigger really so a netbook might be a consideration.
To me, yes. I tried reading a computer book on my Kindle, and got a headache.

My Asus 1000HE gives me a great reading experience.....instant page turning, pictures are clear, battery life is minimum 8 hrs.

The reading screen is considerably larger, and I can adjust font. I prefer the mobipocket reader to the kindle for pc. To me, its just a better reading experience.

I have a wireless mouse for mine, so a simple click of the middle button turns pages as fast or slow as I need.

Plus, I bought it from Amazon, so I knew I had 30 days to try it out and if it didn't suit, I could return it for just the shipping charges.
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